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Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 12:10 pm

kscardsfan wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:28 am Pretty good bet he starts in CF opening day.

Not at the moment.

Siani - .061/.162/.061 .223
Scott - .345/.457/.552 1.009

That’s basically invisible.

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:52 am He runs fast and he can go pick it in the outfield. And that was good enough for me.

But his noodle bat this spring just doesn't justify his spot on the team, not when there's people performing better offensively with a relatively small defensive downgrade.

Considering the other defensive liabilities the Cards gave major innings in the outfield last year (Jordan Walker, Burleson) and the teams general lack of K stuff from the pitchers, Siani made alot of sense. Had the rest of the lineup hit like it was supposed to, you can hide his bat.

Hes the exact type of ‘developmental’ Guy fans have been clamoring for the team to look for: a guy with a defined MLB skill that could stick with some development. He’s only 1 year older than V Scott and i don’t sacrificing some at bats to see if he ‘can it out’ at the plate. Especially if it gives VSIII the proper development time he needs for long term staying power.

But that glove definitely plays at the MLB level.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 12:17 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 12:10 pm

kscardsfan wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:28 am Pretty good bet he starts in CF opening day.

Not at the moment.

Siani - .061/.162/.061 .223
Scott - .345/.457/.552 1.009

That’s basically invisible.

Last week of ST means more than the first 3, but that’s a very large gap to close.

It’s true, he’s not a great offensive threat. He did, however, improve more at the plate than anyone else on the team. The love comes from the fact that he is a Gold Glove caliber OF and he does the little things. He bunts. He moves runners over. He is an excellent base runner. He’s willing to accept any role to be on the MLB roster (that is a bigger factor than people realize).

I was a big advocate for Siani to make the team out of Spring training last year, and he did about what I thought he would do. He just ended up starting way more than I anticipated. This year it needs to be Koperniak! I would like for the Cardinals to sell Siani to a club who needs that 4th outfielder, who can play a strong CF. They have to move him, otherwise Oli will play him!
If Scott isn’t considered quite ready, then start the season with Noot in CF, until a time when is deemed so. Koperniak, may not be as strong of a defender as Siani, especially in CF, but he isn’t considered a poor fielder, he’s not slow, and he knows how to hit! The Cardinals need that type of player right now, way more than a guy who’s mostly just a great fielder!

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 12:10 pm

kscardsfan wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:28 am Pretty good bet he starts in CF opening day.

Not at the moment.

Siani - .061/.162/.061 .223
Scott - .345/.457/.552 1.009

How well have you been paying attention to marmol?

Did you see him get picked off? You can’t teach that. It’s instinct. Reflexes. Skill. Like a stalking 2 legged puma. Lethal.

kscardsfan wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:01 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 12:10 pm

kscardsfan wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:28 am Pretty good bet he starts in CF opening day.

Not at the moment.

Siani - .061/.162/.061 .223
Scott - .345/.457/.552 1.009

How well have you been paying attention to marmol?

I don’t have a great deal of respect for Marmol, but he’s not a complete moron. I wouldn’t assume he’ll always make the wrong decision.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 11:05 am

CCard wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:50 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:37 am

CCard wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:15 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:07 am Surely there are better options. Why not Scott? Siani is the perfect example of an all field no hit player. The time he's getting playing is taking away from other options. Hell, move Noot to center and play any of the young options in left. Koperniak, Church, or put Donovan in left and try Prieto at 2nd. Siani is a dead spot in the lineup. He couldn't hang in Cincy and his offense is dragging down the Cards too. Please, enough with the Siani playing time.

Do people need to explain ST to you?

Was it ST when he played last year? S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]

Apparently people do need to explain ST. How'd VS2 do last year in ST and then at MLB?

LOL...comparing the very talented Scott with a castoff from Cincy. You're brilliant. Scott has more talent on his worst day than Siani will have in his entire career. One needs to play and one needs to be gone. Which would you choose?

Reading is hard, but comprehension beyond you...I can't help you.

Good luck with that... I'll type slower next time

Don't denigrate yourself, you're plenty slow. Anybody who's a proponent of Siani starting in CF needs their meds adjusted.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:29 am

CCard wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:07 am Surely there are better options. Why not Scott? Siani is the perfect example of an all field no hit player. The time he's getting playing is taking away from other options. Hell, move Noot to center and play any of the young options in left. Koperniak, Church, or put Donovan in left and try Prieto at 2nd. Siani is a dead spot in the lineup. He couldn't hang in Cincy and his offense is dragging down the Cards too. Please, enough with the Siani playing time.

Bigger mystery- love for Siani or Winn at leadoff. Explain either.

I'm not a big believer that a hitter will hit better or worse because they're in a different place in the order. I do realize that protection plays a part. Also I realize that the earlier spots get more at bats. I do believe you look at what a player did the previous season and that's why I give Winn the benefit. That's also why I've had enough of Siani. Move Winn down in the order, I don't care. But he plays. Siani? Not so much.

I don't believe Siani is a .050 hitter, and Winn will eventully hit; they just need AB's which they are getting. But the development of these two players has to be the priority. IMO the two questions should be: 1) Why is VS not considered the everyday CF? 2) Why does Winn's development have to take place at the Lead-off spot?

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:53 pm I don't believe Siani is a .050 hitter, and Winn will eventully hit; they just need AB's which they are getting. But the development of these two players has to be the priority. IMO the two questions should be: 1) Why is VS not considered the everyday CF? 2) Why does Winn's development have to take place at the Lead-off spot?

Hes not a .050 hitter but he is still an awful hitter who will have a sub .300 OBP sub to low .600 OPS. If you had a great offense you can afford to play him the cardinals don’t so they can’t

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:58 pm

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:53 pm I don't believe Siani is a .050 hitter, and Winn will eventully hit; they just need AB's which they are getting. But the development of these two players has to be the priority. IMO the two questions should be: 1) Why is VS not considered the everyday CF? 2) Why does Winn's development have to take place at the Lead-off spot?

Hes not a .050 hitter but he is still an awful hitter who will have a sub .300 OBP sub to low .600 OPS. If you had a great offense you can afford to play him the cardinals don’t so they can’t

I agree 100% OZ that if you pepper the field with plus bats you can afford a weaker bat at either SS, CF, or Catcher but this team will need to consider putting bats on the field. This is why I can't wrap my simple brain around VS3 not being your obvious everyday CF. He's beginning to look hitterish

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 14:25 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:58 pm

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 13:53 pm I don't believe Siani is a .050 hitter, and Winn will eventully hit; they just need AB's which they are getting. But the development of these two players has to be the priority. IMO the two questions should be: 1) Why is VS not considered the everyday CF? 2) Why does Winn's development have to take place at the Lead-off spot?

Hes not a .050 hitter but he is still an awful hitter who will have a sub .300 OBP sub to low .600 OPS. If you had a great offense you can afford to play him the cardinals don’t so they can’t

I agree 100% OZ that if you pepper the field with plus bats you can afford a weaker bat at either SS, CF, or Catcher but this team will need to consider putting bats on the field. This is why I can't wrap my simple brain around VS3 not being your obvious everyday CF. He's beginning to look hitterish

+1 especially with him employing the bunt more that brings the infield in and lets hard hit grounders get through more

This aged well...

Goes 2 for 2, hitting better than Winn

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 14:48 pm This aged well...

Goes 2 for 2, hitting better than Winn

I would consider one game a "small sample" size, but I don't believe he is a .050 hitter.