Donovan to Mariners

[Melville]

ugghhhh….I would rather have gotten one top 50 prospect than 5 average ones.

I was hoping for quality over quantity as well.

Agree with both of you.

[Melville]

Underwhelming. I expected more but it is what it is.

Agree.
Unless Bloom gets very, very lucky this was a poorly thought-out move.

[Ozziesfan41]

ugghhhh….I would rather have gotten one top 50 prospect than 5 average ones.

I was hoping for quality over quantity as well.

Agree with both of you.

lol very doubtful anyone was willing to give up a top 50 prospect for Donovan he’s not the kind of player who would get that. He’s a .650 ops hitter career against left handers with a .614 ops last season against them so he is heading toward platoon player territory doesn’t have much power or speed. He’s way overvalued by cards fans. A team would be dumb to trade a top 50 for donovan. The Cardinals have Doyle Rodriguez and JJ in the top 50 only an idiot would trade one of them for Donovan

[Goldfan]

I disagree strongly with your last sentence.

Yep, Bloom has done more positive for the franchise in a few months than Mo had done in the last 10 years.

What great positive has he done other than clearing BDW payroll obligations for question marks.
What player out of this offseason trade return is anyone confident being a solid MLB starter?

Prefer adding an Erik Fedde and calling it a winter?

I prefer getting some stud players…….is this asking too much…..middling rehab projects fits in well to this organizations overall losing mentality

What studs were available for BD?

GF was asked the same question when he was whining about the return in the Gray trade, whining about the return in the Contrerras trade and whining about the return in the Arenado trade. He had no answers then, he'll have no answers now.

He just wants to whine.

Then what is the POINT of all this other than dumping vet contracts???
With those you mention…..they were old with large contracts is the excuse why Bloom couldn’t get a great return
Now with Donny…..he was one of the top trade targets all offseason and he’s young and CHEAP…..and still not a great return
What quality of player needs to be traded to get an almost MLB ready close to sure thing?

The problem is you are confused and think because a team is interested in a player they will pay anything to get them you’re wrong you were always wrong about that. The cardinals valued him for his intangibles other teams trading for him are looking far more at actual production and Donovan was a 10 hr 50 rbi guy. He doesn’t have much power and doesn’t have much power. I mean would you trade a guy like Doyle or JJ for Donavan? No because he’s a complimentary player

Oh he’s not “confused”.
He just has zero intestinal fortitude and a total lack of intelligence.

Or just keep the young cheap player if you can’t get an acceptable return…..both of you said this was acceptable just a couple days ago. Do you think this is an acceptable return for Donny’s skill set??

Actually.....UNLIKE YOU...I’m going to take the time to analyze the trade.....AND...this is the KEY PART....listen to comments from people who ACTUALLY KNOW the players
involved!!!!!!!
Congrats....whining/crying/complaining is not your worst quality.
Talking out of your (bleep) is!!!!
You might get a better VIEW of life in general if you get your head out of your rear end??????

Cuse…..outside of what I type here about Cards Baseball…..which has been a giant chitshow for years…..obviously….
How can you possibly discern from that what sort of LIFE I’m living??
Do you think these letters on a screen about BASEBALL is real life???
I honestly am speechless with irrational comments like this

[Goldfan]

According to my calculations, we have 6 in the top 100 draft picks.
Anyone here who does not see the value in that is as stupid as Goldbummer.
Maybe even dumber.

I’m sure you’re aware that outside the top 10 maybe top 5……it becomes a crapshoot if those picks make it out the minors
But since all we really have to root for about the Cardinals are draft picks and middling trade prospects…..Yippee

[Cusecards]

Yep, Bloom has done more positive for the franchise in a few months than Mo had done in the last 10 years.

What great positive has he done other than clearing BDW payroll obligations for question marks.
What player out of this offseason trade return is anyone confident being a solid MLB starter?

Prefer adding an Erik Fedde and calling it a winter?

I prefer getting some stud players…….is this asking too much…..middling rehab projects fits in well to this organizations overall losing mentality

What studs were available for BD?

GF was asked the same question when he was whining about the return in the Gray trade, whining about the return in the Contrerras trade and whining about the return in the Arenado trade. He had no answers then, he'll have no answers now.

He just wants to whine.

Then what is the POINT of all this other than dumping vet contracts???
With those you mention…..they were old with large contracts is the excuse why Bloom couldn’t get a great return
Now with Donny…..he was one of the top trade targets all offseason and he’s young and CHEAP…..and still not a great return
What quality of player needs to be traded to get an almost MLB ready close to sure thing?

The problem is you are confused and think because a team is interested in a player they will pay anything to get them you’re wrong you were always wrong about that. The cardinals valued him for his intangibles other teams trading for him are looking far more at actual production and Donovan was a 10 hr 50 rbi guy. He doesn’t have much power and doesn’t have much power. I mean would you trade a guy like Doyle or JJ for Donavan? No because he’s a complimentary player

Oh he’s not “confused”.
He just has zero intestinal fortitude and a total lack of intelligence.

Or just keep the young cheap player if you can’t get an acceptable return…..both of you said this was acceptable just a couple days ago. Do you think this is an acceptable return for Donny’s skill set??

Actually.....UNLIKE YOU...I’m going to take the time to analyze the trade.....AND...this is the KEY PART....listen to comments from people who ACTUALLY KNOW the players
involved!!!!!!!
Congrats....whining/crying/complaining is not your worst quality.
Talking out of your (bleep) is!!!!
You might get a better VIEW of life in general if you get your head out of your rear end??????

Cuse…..outside of what I type here about Cards Baseball…..which has been a giant chitshow for years…..obviously….
How can you possibly discern from that what sort of LIFE I’m living??
Do you think these letters on a screen about BASEBALL is real life???
I honestly am speechless with irrational comments like this

As for “baseball talk” based on your constant whining/babbling I have FORGOTTEN more about baseball than you’ll ever know!
Having said that....I DON’T have “informed” knowledge of the prospects Bloom has received in return.
Based on your level of knowledge you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about ANY of them.
You’d be wise to stop talking but I doubt that you will!

[Goldfan]

ugghhhh….I would rather have gotten one top 50 prospect than 5 average ones.

I was hoping for quality over quantity as well.

Agree with both of you.

lol very doubtful anyone was willing to give up a top 50 prospect for Donovan he’s not the kind of player who would get that. He’s a .650 ops hitter career against left handers with a .614 ops last season against them so he is heading toward platoon player territory doesn’t have much power or speed. He’s way overvalued by cards fans. A team would be dumb to trade a top 50 for donovan. The Cardinals have Doyle Rodriguez and JJ in the top 50 only an idiot would trade one of them for Donovan

MLB career
.282
.361
.772
GG
Allstar
Can play several positions
Terrible player……your CT organizational groupie experts

[Goldfan]

What great positive has he done other than clearing BDW payroll obligations for question marks.
What player out of this offseason trade return is anyone confident being a solid MLB starter?

Prefer adding an Erik Fedde and calling it a winter?

I prefer getting some stud players…….is this asking too much…..middling rehab projects fits in well to this organizations overall losing mentality

What studs were available for BD?

GF was asked the same question when he was whining about the return in the Gray trade, whining about the return in the Contrerras trade and whining about the return in the Arenado trade. He had no answers then, he'll have no answers now.

He just wants to whine.

Then what is the POINT of all this other than dumping vet contracts???
With those you mention…..they were old with large contracts is the excuse why Bloom couldn’t get a great return
Now with Donny…..he was one of the top trade targets all offseason and he’s young and CHEAP…..and still not a great return
What quality of player needs to be traded to get an almost MLB ready close to sure thing?

The problem is you are confused and think because a team is interested in a player they will pay anything to get them you’re wrong you were always wrong about that. The cardinals valued him for his intangibles other teams trading for him are looking far more at actual production and Donovan was a 10 hr 50 rbi guy. He doesn’t have much power and doesn’t have much power. I mean would you trade a guy like Doyle or JJ for Donavan? No because he’s a complimentary player

Oh he’s not “confused”.
He just has zero intestinal fortitude and a total lack of intelligence.

Or just keep the young cheap player if you can’t get an acceptable return…..both of you said this was acceptable just a couple days ago. Do you think this is an acceptable return for Donny’s skill set??

Actually.....UNLIKE YOU...I’m going to take the time to analyze the trade.....AND...this is the KEY PART....listen to comments from people who ACTUALLY KNOW the players
involved!!!!!!!
Congrats....whining/crying/complaining is not your worst quality.
Talking out of your (bleep) is!!!!
You might get a better VIEW of life in general if you get your head out of your rear end??????

Cuse…..outside of what I type here about Cards Baseball…..which has been a giant chitshow for years…..obviously….
How can you possibly discern from that what sort of LIFE I’m living??
Do you think these letters on a screen about BASEBALL is real life???
I honestly am speechless with irrational comments like this

As for “baseball talk” based on your constant whining/babbling I have FORGOTTEN more about baseball than you’ll ever know!
Having said that....I DON’T have “informed” knowledge of the prospects Bloom has received in return.
Based on your level of knowledge you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about ANY of them.
You’d be wise to stop talking but I doubt that you will!

Can you read a stat line
This SP is 5’11
Has a rather High ERA at appropriate age/level
His claim to fame is throwing with both arms.

[Ozziesfan41]

ugghhhh….I would rather have gotten one top 50 prospect than 5 average ones.

I was hoping for quality over quantity as well.

Agree with both of you.

lol very doubtful anyone was willing to give up a top 50 prospect for Donovan he’s not the kind of player who would get that. He’s a .650 ops hitter career against left handers with a .614 ops last season against them so he is heading toward platoon player territory doesn’t have much power or speed. He’s way overvalued by cards fans. A team would be dumb to trade a top 50 for donovan. The Cardinals have Doyle Rodriguez and JJ in the top 50 only an idiot would trade one of them for Donovan

MLB career
.282
.361
.772
GG
Allstar
Can play several positions
Terrible player……your CT organizational groupie experts

All of what I said is true. He was a gold glove utility guy 3 years ago he will never win a gold a glove at one position he’s decent to slightly bad at several positions that won it for him he isn’t elite at any position and he was an all star only because the cardinals had to have a representative. Only Donovan groupies think he’s awesome and that’s fine but he’s not he’s just good. But let’s be clear you were going to whine and cry if they kept him and you were going to whine and cry if they traded him no matter what the return was I totally called it I said u would be whining and I was 100% right because that’s all you do. And again would you trade JJ Doyle or Rodriguez for Donovan?

[Cusecards]

Prefer adding an Erik Fedde and calling it a winter?

I prefer getting some stud players…….is this asking too much…..middling rehab projects fits in well to this organizations overall losing mentality

What studs were available for BD?

GF was asked the same question when he was whining about the return in the Gray trade, whining about the return in the Contrerras trade and whining about the return in the Arenado trade. He had no answers then, he'll have no answers now.

He just wants to whine.

Then what is the POINT of all this other than dumping vet contracts???
With those you mention…..they were old with large contracts is the excuse why Bloom couldn’t get a great return
Now with Donny…..he was one of the top trade targets all offseason and he’s young and CHEAP…..and still not a great return
What quality of player needs to be traded to get an almost MLB ready close to sure thing?

The problem is you are confused and think because a team is interested in a player they will pay anything to get them you’re wrong you were always wrong about that. The cardinals valued him for his intangibles other teams trading for him are looking far more at actual production and Donovan was a 10 hr 50 rbi guy. He doesn’t have much power and doesn’t have much power. I mean would you trade a guy like Doyle or JJ for Donavan? No because he’s a complimentary player

Oh he’s not “confused”.
He just has zero intestinal fortitude and a total lack of intelligence.

Or just keep the young cheap player if you can’t get an acceptable return…..both of you said this was acceptable just a couple days ago. Do you think this is an acceptable return for Donny’s skill set??

Actually.....UNLIKE YOU...I’m going to take the time to analyze the trade.....AND...this is the KEY PART....listen to comments from people who ACTUALLY KNOW the players
involved!!!!!!!
Congrats....whining/crying/complaining is not your worst quality.
Talking out of your (bleep) is!!!!
You might get a better VIEW of life in general if you get your head out of your rear end??????

Cuse…..outside of what I type here about Cards Baseball…..which has been a giant chitshow for years…..obviously….
How can you possibly discern from that what sort of LIFE I’m living??
Do you think these letters on a screen about BASEBALL is real life???
I honestly am speechless with irrational comments like this

As for “baseball talk” based on your constant whining/babbling I have FORGOTTEN more about baseball than you’ll ever know!
Having said that....I DON’T have “informed” knowledge of the prospects Bloom has received in return.
Based on your level of knowledge you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about ANY of them.
You’d be wise to stop talking but I doubt that you will!

Can you read a stat line
This SP is 5’11
Has a rather High ERA at appropriate age/level
His claim to fame is throwing with both arms.

My last post nailed it!
I’m due back on Planet Earth.
Go Cards!

[ScotchMIrish]

Underwhelming. I expected more but it is what it is.

Agree.
Unless Bloom gets very, very lucky this was a poorly thought-out move.

Our other trade chips all had issues. With Gray and Arenado it was age. With Contreras it was age and the fact he can't play catcher.

Donovan is young, all star, gold glove. Top 5 OPS in MLB at 2B. He was our biggest trade chip and we got what? An ambidextrous pitcher, a couple outfielders and a round B compensation pick. The strategy is to acquire a bunch of prospects and one or two will work out.

[rockondlouie]

Not much left to say that hasn't been said.

Appears to be a great return

And we'll not really know whether it was a good trade or a bad trade for a few years.

[TraveledLessRoad]

We got two comps, not one. If i'm being honest, i'd have been fine with Cinjinte and the two comp pics. To get a lottery ticket and 4th outfielder was simply icing on the cake

[Ronnie Dobbs]

We got two comps, not one. If i'm being honest, i'd have been fine with Cinjinte and the two comp pics. To get a lottery ticket and 4th outfielder was simply icing on the cake

Yeah, I know people were getting their hopes up about getting some great prospect haul, like some teams number one prospect who is like a top 25 overall MLB prospect, but it was just never gonna happen. Some people were excited for Ryan Sloan, plus another prospect, but do you think Seattle would’ve traded him even straight up for Donovan? I doubt it.

I understand a lot of the negatives on Peete, but you gotta hope that they can do for him what they’ve done for Baez. Like how the Marlins did with Sandy Alcantara, when he couldn’t throw strikes with us. And yeah, the fourth outfielder is icing on the cake, but those guys are valuable to a team.

And now look at the flexibility we have in the draft this year. You can go a lot of different ways with that many picks. It will be exciting to see what they do, especially with a new guy running the draft.

[Melville]

According to my calculations, we have 6 in the top 100 draft picks.
Anyone here who does not see the value in that is as stupid as Goldbummer.
Maybe even dumber.

I’m sure you’re aware that outside the top 10 maybe top 5……it becomes a crapshoot if those picks make it out the minors
But since all we really have to root for about the Cardinals are draft picks and middling trade prospects…..Yippee

They are ALL crapshoots.
Remember, Walker and Hence were BOTH top 5.

[rockondlouie]

We got two comps, not one. If i'm being honest, i'd have been fine with Cinjinte and the two comp pics. To get a lottery ticket and 4th outfielder was simply icing on the cake

BINGO!

Those slamming the trade are either uniformed or just want to beetch about everything.

I'll take any prospect as highly rated as Cinjinte (now our #4 prospect) out of the M's system since they know how to find pitchers!

I'm already seeing he's comped to M. Stroman but w/more KO upside.

Guys have understand this was B. DONOVAN we were trading, NOT some star player!

The return results won't be known for a year or two, but (IMO) this was a good deal given who we traded.

JMO