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[Quincy Varnish]

If I were going to counter, I'd say, well, Estrada was probably a 10th round pick in the draft for a reason. And, although he was unceremoniously jettisoned, I think there is reason to believe he'll be much better as the season goes along (he's actually an .820 OPS over the last fourteen days, which is pretty good for my nominal backup at 2B and SS).

But I get where you'd be coming from.

Sitting in 1st, even if early, I don't feel motivated to necessarily change my status quo anyway.

Yeah I dumped Estrada pretty quickly. Partially influenced by him being terrible out of the gate but I also had Carlos Correa start off hot and looking great in our league.

That “last 14 days” catches his one 2 HR game. Hopefully he gets better, I guess, but he’s been awful.

I’ve learned that you have to be comfortable moving off guys even if instincts say to hold - I already dropped Jordan Walker in my H2H points league because he has been unplayable. I dropped him and Estrada in that league but moved Estrada as soon as Betts got SS eligibility.

There is definitely a feeling out period here for me and how people value their draft picks.

We drafted about twice the number as a fantasy football draft (26 rounds vs. 13), so to see people dropping 10th round picks like 1/10 of the way through the season would be like seeing 5th round picks dropped after 2 weeks into an NFL season. I don't see that much, if as all.

Estrada was the 147th overall pick. It's hard to equate that to a top 60 pick in a standard 12 team football draft. It's more like a 12th round pick.

I also felt like I overdrafted Estrada due to some positional scarcity. But a guy taken around 150 off to a slow start shouldn't be that difficult to move off of regardless of when he was drafted. He's currently ranked 354th. That isn't very useful.

Tanner Scott was a 10th round pick and he's looking iffy.
Esteury Ruiz was 10th round pick and has 15 PA.

I've dropped my picks from Rounds 20, 23, 24, 25, and 26, but picked up a 10th, 17th, and 21st round pick.

20 - Reese Olson: fringy but ownable and off to a decent start
24 - Bryan De La Cruz: drafted 360th and currently ranked 191st, owned by DJ Davis
25 - Jake Cronenworth: drafted 361st and currently ranked 124th, owned by whatashame

I get what you're saying, but making drop decisions based on where they were drafted has lost you what were two really good picks in De La Cruz and Cronenworth.

Meh… De La Cruz is hot right now. Pretty sure I carried him for a few days and also dropped him. You’re right in thinking he has value, but I don’t know if I’d call him a “really good” pick. He was floating on waivers in most leagues before his current hot streak.

Cronenworth, also meh. He was very valuable a few years ago when I think he was eligible at 4 or 5 positions. I guess he could be okay in such a deep league, but I think he’s been overrated for a while now.

[Quincy Varnish]

I've effectively replaced:

Cronenworth (.798 OPS for the season) with O'Hearn (1.045 OPS)
De La Cruz (.746 OPS) with Merrill (.844 OPS)
Kepler (.145 OPS) with Diaz (.728 OPS at catcher)
Olsen (16.3 IP, 3.86 ERA, 1.47 WHIP) with Lodolo (5.6 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.45 WHIP)
T. Walker (inj) with MacArthur (4 SV, 3.72 ERA, 1.34 WHIP)

and that doesn't count banking Estrada and Robertson for having moved O'Neill and Suzuki to the IL.

I'll take those exchanges. The only thing I might have done differently is to have thought about letting Maeda go instead of Olsen.

Maybe paying $5 for Bryant might be reconsidered?

Guess I can’t give you too much flack b/c I drafted the bum.

My unsolicited opinion is you’ve done a fine job w/ your drops/adds. Considering the quantity of moves that we make, it’s almost inevitable we’ll both make some regrettable decisions by season’s end.

Lodolo could be a fantastic pickup if he finally stays on the field.

For your viewing pleasure, I cannot see or hear Nick Lodolo’s name w/o thinking of this masterpiece.

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[An Old Friend]

If I were going to counter, I'd say, well, Estrada was probably a 10th round pick in the draft for a reason. And, although he was unceremoniously jettisoned, I think there is reason to believe he'll be much better as the season goes along (he's actually an .820 OPS over the last fourteen days, which is pretty good for my nominal backup at 2B and SS).

But I get where you'd be coming from.

Sitting in 1st, even if early, I don't feel motivated to necessarily change my status quo anyway.

Yeah I dumped Estrada pretty quickly. Partially influenced by him being terrible out of the gate but I also had Carlos Correa start off hot and looking great in our league.

That “last 14 days” catches his one 2 HR game. Hopefully he gets better, I guess, but he’s been awful.

I’ve learned that you have to be comfortable moving off guys even if instincts say to hold - I already dropped Jordan Walker in my H2H points league because he has been unplayable. I dropped him and Estrada in that league but moved Estrada as soon as Betts got SS eligibility.

There is definitely a feeling out period here for me and how people value their draft picks.

We drafted about twice the number as a fantasy football draft (26 rounds vs. 13), so to see people dropping 10th round picks like 1/10 of the way through the season would be like seeing 5th round picks dropped after 2 weeks into an NFL season. I don't see that much, if as all.

Estrada was the 147th overall pick. It's hard to equate that to a top 60 pick in a standard 12 team football draft. It's more like a 12th round pick.

I also felt like I overdrafted Estrada due to some positional scarcity. But a guy taken around 150 off to a slow start shouldn't be that difficult to move off of regardless of when he was drafted. He's currently ranked 354th. That isn't very useful.

Tanner Scott was a 10th round pick and he's looking iffy.
Esteury Ruiz was 10th round pick and has 15 PA.

I've dropped my picks from Rounds 20, 23, 24, 25, and 26, but picked up a 10th, 17th, and 21st round pick.

20 - Reese Olson: fringy but ownable and off to a decent start
24 - Bryan De La Cruz: drafted 360th and currently ranked 191st, owned by DJ Davis
25 - Jake Cronenworth: drafted 361st and currently ranked 124th, owned by whatashame

I get what you're saying, but making drop decisions based on where they were drafted has lost you what were two really good picks in De La Cruz and Cronenworth.

Meh… De La Cruz is hot right now. Pretty sure I carried him for a few days and also dropped him. You’re right in thinking he has value, but I don’t know if I’d call him a “really good” pick. He was floating on waivers in most leagues before his current hot streak.

Cronenworth, also meh. He was very valuable a few years ago when I think he was eligible at 4 or 5 positions. I guess he could be okay in such a deep league, but I think he’s been overrated for a while now.

I’m just saying if you draft a guy in the 300’s and they are ranked much higher than that, you got good value… i.e. that’s a really good pick

[Quincy Varnish]

I’m just saying if you draft a guy in the 300’s and they are ranked much higher than that, you got good value… i.e. that’s a really good pick

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Yahoo’s rankings can be garbage w/ some players.

Generally, I agree… but when I do draft a higher ranking player later than expected, it’s typically for devious reasons - maybe I can get some schmuck to buy into the number next to this player’s name in a trade.

Usually when a player drops well below their ranking, there’s a good reason for it… though there can be misconceptions about a player that prove to be inaccurate.

Some of my old tricks aren’t working as well this year. I drafted Willson Contreras in one league even though I already had Realmuto, and my sole intention was to trade him. Zero interest from anyone for Contreras. I ended up dropping him. Someone else dropped him in another league of mine. I don’t understand that [shirt] at all. I guess all that idiotic controversy last year somehow destroyed his value in the eyes of many. He remains among the best hitting catchers in the league.

[An Old Friend]

DJ has had a rough week… had been playing d’Arnaud at catcher but replaced him yesterday.

d’Arnaud promptly goes 3-4 with 3 HR and 6 RBI. Ouch!

[Quincy Varnish]

My $8 spent to put John Means on my IL only to drop him to make room for O'Neill was probably worse.

Seemed like a good idea right up until he hasn't been able to get minor leaguers out in his rehab starts.

Thus far, I may have a stranglehold on the CT DFoY award. Trading Hunter Greene for Esteury Ruiz. Subsequently dropping Ruiz, AND THEN having the privilege of watching him shove it in our own Cardinals behind is a feat that will be difficult to equal.

[Quincy Varnish]

My $8 spent to put John Means on my IL only to drop him to make room for O'Neill was probably worse.

Seemed like a good idea right up until he hasn't been able to get minor leaguers out in his rehab starts.

Thus far, I may have a stranglehold on the CT DFoY award. Trading Hunter Greene for Esteury Ruiz. Subsequently dropping Ruiz, AND THEN having the privilege of watching him shove it in our own Cardinals behind is a feat that will be difficult to equal.

Arguably, I think, Ruiz might be one of the most controversial players in baseball. IIRC, he was perceived to be the "centerpiece" of what Oakland got in that three way deal with Atlanta and Milwaukee where Oakland gave away Sean Murphy and left a lot of experts (and non-experts) thinking "WTF is Oakland doing?!?!"

Yes, I can see that. There were radically differing opinions of his value at the time of the trade, and the trend continues.

There is NO question he could be tremendously valuable on the right fantasy roster, provided it has no major deficiencies in any area but SB. That was my philosophy in trading for him - not to suggest my roster was perfect, but only with the confidence that I could get it close to being an otherwise well-balanced machine.

When he was demoted, and there was no assurance of when the hell he might be back, it seemed the only choice to drop him. This time of year can be crucial w/ adds and drops, particularly in identifying closers and undervalued assets... so every roster spot is important. My thinking was sound, but everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

[An Old Friend]

BTW - did you see the Q in the league chat:

For clarity, if you have a player in your lineup - like say I have O'Neill in mine right now for today (Thursday) - but they aren't in the starting lineup and don't play at all in that game - does that count as using one of your "games played" at the position? That is, to NOT use up a "game played" do you have to leave that spot in your lineup entirely vacant?

I'm assuming that, even if they are not in the starting lineup, if they pinch hit (or maybe even come in as a defensive sub) during a game and you have them active in your lineup, that is going to count as a "game played."

So if you know one of your players is not in the starting lineup that day, and therefore isn't going to get 3, 4, 5 PAs, and you don't want to waste a "game played", you should explicitly move them from your active roster to the bench, right?

Yeah they have to appear in the game for it to count as a game played against your allotment.

[An Old Friend]

I might stop making moves and just check the league once a week.

Drop D’Anaud who did nothing then he hits 3 HR the day after.

I’m not laughing at you, but…



That sucks. I can’t buy a Homer and my savior is killing it in the Orioles AAA affiliate

I’ve always been the victim of overthinking and making too many moves. I always tell myself I will back off. It’s burned me twice this season.

What was the other one?

FWIW I had a good size bid in on Leiter, too. Rough first start and demotion…

[Quincy Varnish]

I think somebody really wanted Richie Palacios.

OMG

Explanation is needed. Drunk? Typo? Was it an expression of his deep faith in Mr. Palacios?

I mean… every once in a while, I’ll almost accidentally tip a Grubhub driver $50.00 instead of $5.00. The 5 has a whole 6 separating it from 7, though - but that 7 does have an appetite.

[Quincy Varnish]

Nico Hoerner is on pace for 0 SB’s, sweet. Pretty much the main reason I drafted him lol.

Ouch.

Thought I would have a SB crisis, but I’m getting by so far. That Ruiz trade is still pissing me off, but it appears he won’t be regularly starting.

Lane Thomas has been a savior in that regard, but he still isn’t hitting.

I’m looking pretty stupid for not having interest in Marte. He was once among my fantasy favorites, but he frustrated me to no end last year.

If you’re looking for SB’s, I might make Turang available soon… not exactly a dream fantasy player, but he will steal bases.

[An Old Friend]

i haven't played in a few years, but I work from home full time, so I have plenty o time to manage a team and would love to join if there is room.

Yo gg, just curious… why are you trading a viable closer for a guy headed to the IL? Did y’all agree to that before he got hurt? I just saw the deal in pending transactions.

[Quincy Varnish]

i haven't played in a few years, but I work from home full time, so I have plenty o time to manage a team and would love to join if there is room.

Yo gg, just curious… why are you trading a viable closer for a guy headed to the IL? Did y’all agree to that before he got hurt? I just saw the deal in pending transactions.

Apparently, ggnoobs made the offer a week ago. Jeffy accepted the trade only a few hours after Casas was moved to the IL.

Very poor form. I will contact him tomorrow.

I do feel that this trade should be vetoed, but both parties might have the opportunity to make their case before it’s processed… there is a 3-day waiting period, but 5 votes are required. It’s safe to say there are already two or three veto votes.

This is NOT kind of [shirt] I want happening in our league.

[Quincy Varnish]

And now I've caught up and saw that ggnoobs wanted it cancelled. So we're good.

What a relief!!!

[Quincy Varnish]

I had questions, so I've entered a "no" vote at least for the time being. If ggnoobs provides positive indication that he still wants the trade to go through despite Casas' injury, I would be willing to let it go.

Yours may have been the decisive vote. The trade is vetoed, as of early this morning.

To clarify how the veto process currently works in this league - the “waiting” period is three FULL days. The trade in question was accepted sometime on Sunday afternoon, so it would not have been processed until early Thursday morning.

[An Old Friend]

And now I've caught up and saw that ggnoobs wanted it cancelled. So we're good.

Except that the trade processed.

Edit - maybe I’m mistaken on the trade going through.

Did it feel weird to have to look up in the standings?