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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
or old men wearing orange make up
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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sdaltons wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
Keep it going, fellas. You've put yourself in a position of favoring yielding into bullies over standing up for one's son. Somehow you think the latter is a result of "insecurity." I'm just supplying the rope here.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Brummer, you're lucky if the staff leaves you unattended with a spork.

That crazy woman would have held you down and made you hit yourself until the 17yo usher pulled her off.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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govman wrote: 08 Sep 2025 23:26 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Sep 2025 09:07 am
George Zipp wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:57 am
Melville wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:42 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:35 am Class act by the Phillies and Bader. I bet the woman regrets her actions now.
I can assure you with 100% certainty that she does not.
She has the ball.
That is the full depth of her thinking capability.
As certain as sunrise.
I'm not so sure about your first line. She may not have regretted in the moment but if you spend any time on twitter (you shouldn't, nobody should, including myself but I digress) you will see that she has already become today's Coldplay CEO/HR lady. I don't know how long her 15 minutes will last but the construction company owner from Poland who took the hat from the kid at the tennis is a very happy man today that he has now been replaced in the world of sporting event villains.
Social media can indeed cause embarrassment.
But it does not change character.
She has the ball - and did whatever was needed to get it.
Despite criticism, she thinks she "won" by getting a grown man to surrender.
And she is very proud of that.
100% guaranteed.
apparently you haven't read the latest--she's being booed everywhere, says she's being treated "unfairly", and wants to move out of the country
It would appear, therefore, that my analysis was 100% correct.
If indeed she believes she was "treated unfairly", my point was perfect.
She has the ball and believes she is the victim - having done nothing wrong in her own mind.
As I said with great insight and prescience, social media can indeed cause embarrassment.
But it does not change character.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
I couple weeks ago, a guy a few towns over from me witnessed a vandal spray painting public property. He called 911 to report and filmed the man spray painting. Turns out that man doing the spray painting was a psycho, pulled a gun out and killed the man sticking up for his town.

Sometimes people are just nuts. Keenly identifying those loonies and choosing to conquer your emotions by walking away is the safer bet and better lesson for your kid. The Philly Karen was/is certifiably nuts. No win situation thinking you can morally high horse a psychotic episode. Man made the right decision and it paid off, nationally.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 20:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 07:35 am I just watched this. I actually think the dad did a really good job.
Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
Keep it going, fellas. You've put yourself in a position of favoring yielding into bullies over standing up for one's son. Somehow you think the latter is a result of "insecurity." I'm just supplying the rope here.
What?!? This wasn't a "bully." This was an unhinged middle-aged-potentially-grandma-aged WOMAN!

Had this been a man in any form, age, or size, this would be a completely different conversation. If, in standing his ground against this nutjob over a $2 baseball, this grandma-aged woman comes into any sort of physical harm, even if it's her fault for starting it, not only would the dad be vilified, he would most likley spend the night at the very least talking to police at the station, if not in a cell.

Of course it's not right, of course she's in the wrong, of course he should have calmly stood up to her, but that's a lot easier to say in hindsight when you're not there in the moment. And, as I've said a few times, it's very clear by the girly waving of his arms and fists when he was first approached, he doesn't have a lot of experience in dealing with these kinds of situations. I would have handled it differently because I've been through these things, but I think he handled it fine all things considered.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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blackinkbiz wrote: 13 Sep 2025 11:31 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 20:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am

Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
Keep it going, fellas. You've put yourself in a position of favoring yielding into bullies over standing up for one's son. Somehow you think the latter is a result of "insecurity." I'm just supplying the rope here.
What?!? This wasn't a "bully." This was an unhinged middle-aged-potentially-grandma-aged WOMAN!

Had this been a man in any form, age, or size, this would be a completely different conversation. If, in standing his ground against this nutjob over a $2 baseball, this grandma-aged woman comes into any sort of physical harm, even if it's her fault for starting it, not only would the dad be vilified, he would most likley spend the night at the very least talking to police at the station, if not in a cell.

Of course it's not right, of course she's in the wrong, of course he should have calmly stood up to her, but that's a lot easier to say in hindsight when you're not there in the moment. And, as I've said a few times, it's very clear by the girly waving of his arms and fists when he was first approached, he doesn't have a lot of experience in dealing with these kinds of situations. I would have handled it differently because I've been through these things, but I think he handled it fine all things considered.
Keep the ball. Sit down and ignore her.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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blackinkbiz wrote: 13 Sep 2025 11:31 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 20:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 08:24 am

Right. Kuddos to the dad, who diffused the situation with the obnoxious lady. No, she didn’t deserve the baseball. She should have been escorted from the stadium. Social media will not be kind to her.
He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
Keep it going, fellas. You've put yourself in a position of favoring yielding into bullies over standing up for one's son. Somehow you think the latter is a result of "insecurity." I'm just supplying the rope here.
What?!? This wasn't a "bully." This was an unhinged middle-aged-potentially-grandma-aged WOMAN!

Had this been a man in any form, age, or size, this would be a completely different conversation. If, in standing his ground against this nutjob over a $2 baseball, this grandma-aged woman comes into any sort of physical harm, even if it's her fault for starting it, not only would the dad be vilified, he would most likley spend the night at the very least talking to police at the station, if not in a cell.

Of course it's not right, of course she's in the wrong, of course he should have calmly stood up to her, but that's a lot easier to say in hindsight when you're not there in the moment. And, as I've said a few times, it's very clear by the girly waving of his arms and fists when he was first approached, he doesn't have a lot of experience in dealing with these kinds of situations. I would have handled it differently because I've been through these things, but I think he handled it fine all things considered.
It's amazing how foreign this concept is to some of you. It's like you've feared conflict and confronation all your life. Standing up for yourself by standing up to someone else doesn't require a violent or angry response. In situations like this, where a crazy loon is demanding something intolerable, the manly way to handle it is to remain calm and steadfastly refuse. "No ma'am, I'm not going to give you this ball." No matter how much she screams and demonstrates, show a backbone and do what's right. In this case it was keeping the ball for his son. Calm, cool determination goes a long way towards prevailing in sitatuations like this.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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11WSChamps wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:21 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:17 pm Two scenarios:

1. Give the ball to the lady.
2. Keep the ball and tell the lady to take a hike.


The issue isn’t which one you choose. The issue is that #1 is somehow a sus.

He’s not. In front of his son, he took the high road. And wouldn’t you know it, the man and his son were rewarded big time.

But even if they weren’t rewarded, in life, you have to choose your battles.

It was just a ball.
And if you don't take care of the little details you'll never handle the big ones.
sometimes, ypu dont want tobescolate a fight and subject yournkids to 5 more minutes if a crazy woman until she possibly gets dragged away by security and ypu teach them that its not that serious

this cpuld possibly be scaring the kids. choosing to diffuse a situation that is scarong your kids is not sus
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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Sometimes people are just nuts. Keenly identifying those loonies and choosing to conquer your emotions by walking away is the safer bet and better lesson for your kid. The Philly Karen was/is certifiably nuts.
No win situation thinking you can morally high horse a psychotic episode.
Man made the right decision and it paid off, nationally.
Well stated.
I would not have been that guy were I in his place, but your point is solid.
The woman was called out.
And the kid scored.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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Wattage wrote: 13 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:21 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:17 pm Two scenarios:

1. Give the ball to the lady.
2. Keep the ball and tell the lady to take a hike.


The issue isn’t which one you choose. The issue is that #1 is somehow a sus.

He’s not. In front of his son, he took the high road. And wouldn’t you know it, the man and his son were rewarded big time.

But even if they weren’t rewarded, in life, you have to choose your battles.

It was just a ball.
And if you don't take care of the little details you'll never handle the big ones.
sometimes, ypu dont want tobescolate a fight and subject yournkids to 5 more minutes if a crazy woman until she possibly gets dragged away by security and ypu teach them that its not that serious

this cpuld possibly be scaring the kids. choosing to diffuse a situation that is scarong your kids is not sus
In English please.
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Re: Bader and the crazy fan

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 13 Sep 2025 15:41 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 13 Sep 2025 11:31 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 20:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:28 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 13:22 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:54 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 11:27 am
Horseradish wrote: 12 Sep 2025 10:58 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 12 Sep 2025 09:28 am
desertrat23 wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:58 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 11 Sep 2025 19:23 pm

He should have shown his boy a lesson in standing up for himself. The right course of action would have been for him to remain calm and keep informing the woman that his son is keeping the ball. Handle it like a man.
Not everyone defines “like a man” the same way.
Yeah, some haven't the first clue. Too many f''ing wimps in today's society.
Or maybe there are just too many insecure tough guys…
So, standing up for your son and setting a good example is being an "insecure tough guy?"

And people wonder how we got from saving the world from fascism and communism to men in dresses.
You can cut that fragile ego with a knife.
I'd be shocked if a [redacted] like you would even touch a knife.
Thank you for proving my point.
The guys who are the most worried about making sure everyone knows how manly they are tend to be compensating for something. Probably drives a huuuuuuge pickup truck as well.
Keep it going, fellas. You've put yourself in a position of favoring yielding into bullies over standing up for one's son. Somehow you think the latter is a result of "insecurity." I'm just supplying the rope here.
What?!? This wasn't a "bully." This was an unhinged middle-aged-potentially-grandma-aged WOMAN!

Had this been a man in any form, age, or size, this would be a completely different conversation. If, in standing his ground against this nutjob over a $2 baseball, this grandma-aged woman comes into any sort of physical harm, even if it's her fault for starting it, not only would the dad be vilified, he would most likley spend the night at the very least talking to police at the station, if not in a cell.

Of course it's not right, of course she's in the wrong, of course he should have calmly stood up to her, but that's a lot easier to say in hindsight when you're not there in the moment. And, as I've said a few times, it's very clear by the girly waving of his arms and fists when he was first approached, he doesn't have a lot of experience in dealing with these kinds of situations. I would have handled it differently because I've been through these things, but I think he handled it fine all things considered.
It's amazing how foreign this concept is to some of you. It's like you've feared conflict and confronation all your life. Standing up for yourself by standing up to someone else doesn't require a violent or angry response. In situations like this, where a crazy loon is demanding something intolerable, the manly way to handle it is to remain calm and steadfastly refuse. "No ma'am, I'm not going to give you this ball." No matter how much she screams and demonstrates, show a backbone and do what's right. In this case it was keeping the ball for his son. Calm, cool determination goes a long way towards prevailing in sitatuations like this.
They don't understand it and they never will.

They immediately go to extreme behavior.

Sad.
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