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Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.

Burly
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR

Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone

.
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.

That may be. But he has to deliver at some point.

Peak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.

lol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those years

You’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.

Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:25 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.

Burly
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR

Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone

.
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.

That may be. But he has to deliver at some point.

Peak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.

lol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those years

You’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.

Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.

I agree Mo and the cardinals bungled his development rushing him to the majors hoping he would Be their savior but they shouldn’t bring him and Gorman back. One of them needs to go

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:42 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:25 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.

Burly
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR

Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone

.
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.

That may be. But he has to deliver at some point.

Peak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.

lol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those years

You’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.

Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.

I agree Mo and the cardinals bungled his development rushing him to the majors hoping he would Be their savior but they shouldn’t bring him and Gorman back. One of them needs to go

That should be Gorman.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 22:52 pm Gorman has a whole season’s worth of PAs more than Walker and is 2 years older. Give Walker this year and next before judging.

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 23:35 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 22:52 pm Gorman has a whole season’s worth of PAs more than Walker and is 2 years older. Give Walker this year and next before judging.

Keep them both and move Nootbaar and Arenado (eating all the contract if you have to). But they have to play every day.

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

Cranny wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 08:43 am

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

Red - Russell and FutureGM have also commented on this thread. Wouldn’t you like to address them, too?
They feel the same way I do about calling the Cards a “AAA” team when half of the MLB teams have lost more games than the Cardinals.

Cranny wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 08:43 am

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

Red - Russell and FutureGM have also commented on this thread. Wouldn’t you like to address them, too?
They feel the same way I do about calling the Cards a “AAA” team when half of the MLB teams have lost more games than the Cardinals.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:11 am

Cranny wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 08:43 am

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

Red - Russell and FutureGM have also commented on this thread. Wouldn’t you like to address them, too?
They feel the same way I do about calling the Cards a “AAA” team when half of the MLB teams have lost more games than the Cardinals.

You can disagree, but good grief, man. You’re acting like your mother was insulted.

Cranny wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 08:38 am Walker has huge power potential, and is the RH MOTO slugging OFer we’ve been looking for. He just needs the right pitching coach. Wish Edmonds could spend a few days in the batting cage with him.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:11 am

Cranny wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 08:43 am

OldRed wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 06:38 am CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.

Red - Russell and FutureGM have also commented on this thread. Wouldn’t you like to address them, too?
They feel the same way I do about calling the Cards a “AAA” team when half of the MLB teams have lost more games than the Cardinals.

You can disagree, but good grief, man. You’re acting like your mother was insulted.