I agree Mo and the cardinals bungled his development rushing him to the majors hoping he would Be their savior but they shouldn’t bring him and Gorman back. One of them needs to goCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pmYou’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pmlol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those yearsCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pmPeak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pmThat may be. But he has to deliver at some point.Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm.Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pmBurlyCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR
Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.
Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.
We are watching a AAA team
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:25 pmI agree Mo and the cardinals bungled his development rushing him to the majors hoping he would Be their savior but they shouldn’t bring him and Gorman back. One of them needs to goCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pmYou’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pmlol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those yearsCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pmPeak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pmThat may be. But he has to deliver at some point.Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm.Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pmBurlyCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR
Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.
Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.
That should be Gorman.
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Gorman’s had 1,423 major league plate appearances
and is 25 years old. Walker’s had 901 major league plate appearances and is 23 years old. No comparison.
and is 25 years old. Walker’s had 901 major league plate appearances and is 23 years old. No comparison.
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I agreeCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:42 pmOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:25 pmI agree Mo and the cardinals bungled his development rushing him to the majors hoping he would Be their savior but they shouldn’t bring him and Gorman back. One of them needs to goCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:21 pmYou’re right, Ozziesfan, but you never know how good they can be unless they have time to adjust and mature at the major league level.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:04 pmlol 27-29 isn’t magical years for a player there are a lot of players that age that suck and if you suck you aren’t going to magically get good just because you turn 27. True Good players usually peak and have their best years at those ages but players that suck guess what they also suck during those yearsCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:58 pmPeak years for a major leaguer? 27-29 years old. Don't give up on players too soon.desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:36 pmThat may be. But he has to deliver at some point.Cranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:33 pm.Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:18 pmBurlyCranny wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 15:13 pm Well, Goldfan, there's a well known expression that says "A player has learned all they're going to learn at AAA, and now they've graduated and it's time to get their feet wet at the major league level". What you're saying is like telling a person who just graduated from college that they need to go back to school because they're still an undergraduate.
.279, .333, .783 14HR
Winn
.270, .325, .717, 8HR
Walker
.231, .287, .606, 3HR
Gorman
.224, .307,.718, 10HR
Noot
.229, .328, .706, 12HR
Scott
.223, .309, .621, 5HR
Pages
.205, .252, .579, 7HR
Cranny the graduates who have been out 3,4,5, yrs and still can’t hold their weight are terminated.
Walker, Gorman, Noot should be gone
Perhaps Scott in CF because of D and IF more offense is installed around him can stay
Pages can’t hit. Gone
You're wrong about Walker. He has the highest ceiling of any Cardinal prospect since Taveras.
Jordan Walker had 27 games at the A level, 55 games at the High A level, 129 games at the AA level and only 118 games at the AAA level. That’s smokin’
fast for a high school kid. Some people seem to forget that. They want him to produce “now”, but he needs a tad bit more runway.
That should be Gorman.
Re: We are watching a AAA team
Gorman has a whole season’s worth of PAs more than Walker and is 2 years older. Give Walker this year and next before judging.
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CRANNY: You have made 45 posts on a subject that you didn't agree with. If you don't like what I post either put me on ignore or report me like you have others.
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Agreed....another half (donkey) decision by the Mo-ran...I'm not excited by either player...and Walker continues to be a enigma...give him this year and see if he a player worth keeping.desertrat23 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 23:35 pmKeep them both and move Nootbaar and Arenado (eating all the contract if you have to). But they have to play every day.
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Walker has huge power potential, and is the RH MOTO slugging OFer we’ve been looking for. He just needs the right pitching coach. Wish Edmonds could spend a few days in the batting cage with him.
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Red - Russell and FutureGM have also commented on this thread. Wouldn’t you like to address them, too?
They feel the same way I do about calling the Cards a “AAA” team when half of the MLB teams have lost more games than the Cardinals.
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Question: Who have the Cardinals drafted in the last 15 years in the first round that has made a huge impact on the team? The Cardinals minor leagues have been overrated for years. And I don't mean making to the Cardinals, a huge impact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... raft_picks
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You can disagree, but good grief, man. You’re acting like your mother was insulted.
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“ don’t talk about my mom, man.”desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:11 amYou can disagree, but good grief, man. You’re acting like your mother was insulted.
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Oh, is that the issue? Dusty Blake isn’t the right man to help Jordan Walker?
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Rat - would suggest you include Russell and FutureGM, as I suggested to Red. I’m sure not the lone wolf in thinking this thread is inane. All Red does is bash the team he’s followed and been a fan of for a number of decades. It gets really old.desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:11 amYou can disagree, but good grief, man. You’re acting like your mother was insulted.