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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
by Melville
craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:01 pm
Melville wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:00 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:51 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:50 pm
JoJo has arb years left, he's having a good season...he HAS to be on the market.
and he gives up a lead off hit...I jinxed his trade value....sorry
strikes out 2 to end the inning...phew, I'm saved CT infamy and embarrassment
TRADE HIM NOW!!!
Might be the closer in 2026?
No chance.
Only if half a dozen others fail.
Plus, odds are good he won't be a Cardinal 10 days from now.
I pray he's not...he has the real value that teams contending are looking for. The Dodgers and Phillies are on record saying they're looking for relievers with years of control left.
Correct.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:05 pm
by craviduce
big launch angle, too....44 degrees. Baby steps, he's getting their

Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:05 pm
by cardstatman
craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
I'm not advocating this....but if you put JoJo with a Walker or a Winn, you'll get your best haul
OTOH. Oli just used him 2 days in a row as a mopup pitcher.
If there is a close game tomorrow, he should not be available.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:06 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
This guy is getting moved.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
by slimjay63801
Keep him. He's (bleep) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
by Melville
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
If we sweep does that mean were buyers again? lol
Funny thing is, if they trade N/A (again), Fedde, Mikolas, and Mootbaar they will be a better team regardless of the return.
They would miss Matz, Maton, and Helsley if they attempt to sneak into the last W/C spot.
Perhaps not as much as would be anticipated.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:09 pm
by cardinalsfever44
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
Keep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
You can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:10 pm
by cardstatman
Looking forward to watching several Cardinals in the playoffs again just like 2023... and I guess Edman in 2024.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:11 pm
by craviduce
hey...we WON a game
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:11 pm
by slimjay63801
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pm
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
Keep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
You can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.
If you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:12 pm
by 82birds
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:57 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:56 pm
Brewers leading Seattle 3-0, top 6
About to have sole possession of 1st place if they hold on. Good for them
Do they ever lose? WTF????
Brewers and Toronto
LOL
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:12 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Dear Skip:
In Colorado, in 2025, there is no such thing as an impressive win. Please take this note.
Signed,
Cardinal nation
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
by 82birds
nice to enjoy a game again
I had almost forgot what it felt like.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
by slimjay63801
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:12 pm
Dear Skip:
In Colorado, in 2025, there is no such thing as an impressive win. Please take this note.
Signed,
Cardinal nation
Say that again baby!! Lol!!
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
by cardinalsfever44
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:11 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pm
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
Keep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
You can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.
If you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.
If the Cards are selling, I don't care who is the closer for the last couple months. Give Graceffo, O'Brien, or some other minor league arm a shot.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Posted: 21 Jul 2025 22:16 pm
by slimjay63801
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:11 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pm
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pm
Keep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
You can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.
If you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.
If the Cards are selling, I don't care who is the closer for the last couple months. Give Graceffo, O'Brien, or some other minor league arm a shot.
Not for the rest of the year. You still must think about next year. It's great to sell and get back some prospects but St Louis must be able to field a team next year also.