Correct.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:01 pmI pray he's not...he has the real value that teams contending are looking for. The Dodgers and Phillies are on record saying they're looking for relievers with years of control left.Melville wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:00 pmNo chance.cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:55 pmMight be the closer in 2026?
Only if half a dozen others fail.
Plus, odds are good he won't be a Cardinal 10 days from now.
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big launch angle, too....44 degrees. Baby steps, he's getting their

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This guy is getting moved.
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Keep him. He's (bleep) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
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Funny thing is, if they trade N/A (again), Fedde, Mikolas, and Mootbaar they will be a better team regardless of the return.
They would miss Matz, Maton, and Helsley if they attempt to sneak into the last W/C spot.
Perhaps not as much as would be anticipated.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
You can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pmKeep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Looking forward to watching several Cardinals in the playoffs again just like 2023... and I guess Edman in 2024.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
hey...we WON a game
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If you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pmYou can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pmKeep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
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Brewers and Torontoslimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:57 pmDo they ever lose? WTF????vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:56 pm Brewers leading Seattle 3-0, top 6
About to have sole possession of 1st place if they hold on. Good for them
LOL
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Dear Skip:
In Colorado, in 2025, there is no such thing as an impressive win. Please take this note.
Signed,
Cardinal nation
In Colorado, in 2025, there is no such thing as an impressive win. Please take this note.
Signed,
Cardinal nation
Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
nice to enjoy a game again
I had almost forgot what it felt like.
I had almost forgot what it felt like.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Say that again baby!! Lol!!imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:12 pm Dear Skip:
In Colorado, in 2025, there is no such thing as an impressive win. Please take this note.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
If the Cards are selling, I don't care who is the closer for the last couple months. Give Graceffo, O'Brien, or some other minor league arm a shot.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:11 pmIf you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pmYou can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pmKeep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Rockies (7/21) ~ 7:40pm CDT
Not for the rest of the year. You still must think about next year. It's great to sell and get back some prospects but St Louis must be able to field a team next year also.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:13 pmIf the Cards are selling, I don't care who is the closer for the last couple months. Give Graceffo, O'Brien, or some other minor league arm a shot.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:11 pmIf you trade Helsley, somebody must resemble a closer. He's closest to that. Still gotta field a MLB team.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:09 pmYou can probably get a decent return for Maton from a contending team that needs bullpen arms. Dude has been lights out this year. I'd trade him.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 22:08 pmKeep him. He's (drat) good but brings nothing back. Gotta keep some guys...