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Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:10 pm
by butsir01
icon wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:08 pm
BIG J wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:03 pm Typical of the Cardinals against a first time pitcher. Seems this has been their long-time history. Not sure how or why, but they always make these guys look good.
Well, that was not your ordinary first-time pitcher. He was dealing.
Yes, but he was pitching to us.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:10 pm
by Ozziesfan41
icon wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:08 pm
BIG J wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:03 pm Typical of the Cardinals against a first time pitcher. Seems this has been their long-time history. Not sure how or why, but they always make these guys look good.
Well, that was not your ordinary first-time pitcher. He was dealing.
+1

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:11 pm
by 82birds
hello 5-game losing streak
hello third place

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:12 pm
by cardstatman
And the "pitch only 8 innings in road games" strategy works again.

Cards bullpen is very fresh.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
by cbcloud
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:03 pm
cbcloud wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:59 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:49 pm
cbcloud wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:36 pm
todd-parker wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:20 pm
82birds wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:19 pm
icon wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:16 pm Well, their kid hurler did a great job pitching, not so good getting back on the rubber. What a klutz. Turned his ankle walking back up the mound. Well, chalk up another one I've never seen before in watching baseball. :lol:
yea, pretty odd
If he retired now, would he be the only pitcher to never give up a hit in his career?
Interesting question... But according to Google's coPilot AI software it has never happened...
1915 guy pitched 3 innings in the majors, no hits, no walks

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... al01.shtml

2004, 3.2 IP, 0 hits, but 5 BB

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ph01.shtml

There’s a bunch of other guys that went 1 or 2 IP with no hits
...I think I phrased the question to CoPilot as a pitcher getting the win. But, rereading T-P's question, that is not what he asked... My bad... Still pretty rare for a MLB pitcher to retire after pitching in a game and not giving up any hits...
For a pitcher that’s there to pitch, obviously yes. Most of the players with 0 hits allowed were position players pitching in blowouts.
...Yeah, that's a different category, one I didn't consider. Here's what coPilot says about that..."It's difficult to determine an exact number of position players who have never given up a hit in their careers, as it's not a standard statistic tracked by MLB."

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
by desertrat23
If you’re going to put out that pathetic of an effort, can you at least finish getting no-hit so we have something interesting to watch?

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:23 pm
by cardstatman
9-12 and average getting beaten 5.2 to 3.9 for the last 21 games.

All teams slump. Good teams find a way to get out of their slumps before their season is ruined.

Can the Cardinals make adjustments and get back on the winning track? It is easier if you play good fundamental baseball and don't have to overcome as many of your own mistakes. Today they simply were beaten. Only 3 hits (all in a row) isn't going to win.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:37 pm
by Strummer Jones
I am ashamed of this team and hate that I allowed myself to think that this year might be exciting.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:38 pm
by butsir01
Strummer Jones wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:37 pm I am ashamed of this team and hate that I allowed myself to think that this year might be exciting.

I feel like I fooled myself, too. Too much hopium.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:40 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Gray was not happy about being interviewed post game lol

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:42 pm
by ramfandan
cardstatman wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:23 pm 9-12 and average getting beaten 5.2 to 3.9 for the last 21 games.

All teams slump. Good teams find a way to get out of their slumps before their season is ruined.

Can the Cardinals make adjustments and get back on the winning track? It is easier if you play good fundamental baseball and don't have to overcome as many of your own mistakes. Today they simply were beaten. Only 3 hits (all in a row) isn't going to win.
Give credit to the Miz for the Brewers . He pitched a gem tonight. He had a lot to do with the Cardinals not hitting tonight. Looked a little like Paul Skenes with his velocity .

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:54 pm
by ramfandan
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:10 pm
icon wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:08 pm
BIG J wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:03 pm Typical of the Cardinals against a first time pitcher. Seems this has been their long-time history. Not sure how or why, but they always make these guys look good.
Well, that was not your ordinary first-time pitcher. He was dealing.
+1
Correct ! This 1st time pitcher happens to be the Brewers No. 1 pitching prospect in their farm system. Certainly not some ordinary rookie call-up .
To add to never seeing him pitch before , the guy throws a ton of pitches 100 + MPH

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:58 pm
by ramfandan
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:40 pm Gray was not happy about being interviewed post game lol
Why would any Cardinal be happy after this loss ? Sonny pitched well for 4 innings but then they got him in the 5th plus the offense is
not showing up offensively. The guys know they lost their best player with Donovan on the shelf . That is a major loss .

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 22:04 pm
by Strummer Jones
ramfandan wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:42 pm
cardstatman wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:23 pm 9-12 and average getting beaten 5.2 to 3.9 for the last 21 games.

All teams slump. Good teams find a way to get out of their slumps before their season is ruined.

Can the Cardinals make adjustments and get back on the winning track? It is easier if you play good fundamental baseball and don't have to overcome as many of your own mistakes. Today they simply were beaten. Only 3 hits (all in a row) isn't going to win.
Give credit to the Miz for the Brewers . He pitched a gem tonight. He had a lot to do with the Cardinals not hitting tonight. Looked a little like Paul Skenes with his velocity .
I'm kind of sick of giving credit to the other team. This isn't a rare thing that we get curb stomped by some rookie.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 22:16 pm
by Quincy Varnish
cbcloud wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:03 pm
cbcloud wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:59 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:49 pm
cbcloud wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:36 pm
todd-parker wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:20 pm
82birds wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:19 pm
icon wrote: 12 Jun 2025 20:16 pm Well, their kid hurler did a great job pitching, not so good getting back on the rubber. What a klutz. Turned his ankle walking back up the mound. Well, chalk up another one I've never seen before in watching baseball. :lol:
yea, pretty odd
If he retired now, would he be the only pitcher to never give up a hit in his career?
Interesting question... But according to Google's coPilot AI software it has never happened...
1915 guy pitched 3 innings in the majors, no hits, no walks

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... al01.shtml

2004, 3.2 IP, 0 hits, but 5 BB

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ph01.shtml

There’s a bunch of other guys that went 1 or 2 IP with no hits
...I think I phrased the question to CoPilot as a pitcher getting the win. But, rereading T-P's question, that is not what he asked... My bad... Still pretty rare for a MLB pitcher to retire after pitching in a game and not giving up any hits...
For a pitcher that’s there to pitch, obviously yes. Most of the players with 0 hits allowed were position players pitching in blowouts.
...Yeah, that's a different category, one I didn't consider. Here's what coPilot says about that..."It's difficult to determine an exact number of position players who have never given up a hit in their careers, as it's not a standard statistic tracked by MLB."
In other words, googlebot can’t do that [shirt].

It’s easy to look up, and MLB tracks it.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Brewers (6/12) ~ 7:40pm CDT

Posted: 12 Jun 2025 23:26 pm
by Bob Kunush
Strummer Jones wrote: 12 Jun 2025 21:37 pm I am ashamed of this team and hate that I allowed myself to think that this year might be exciting.
What a drama queen.