I think we’ll see more managers using the right to veto when there’s money on the line.HorseTrader wrote: ↑12 Nov 2025 11:27 amQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025 18:17 pmAgree with you regarding the keeper & rolling over league dues.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025 17:51 pm My half cent worth.
If you do a pay league, keeping the money to pay future fees doesn't make me want to be a part of it. Nor would it entice me try to move from 9th to 8th or whatever.
The proposed keeper deal does nothing for me. It won't entice me to try to move in the league. In fact, it would do more to discourage me. You're telling the guys like Dirty Paws this past season, "well you lost so you don't get an equal shot at who can keep". If nothing else, that would would make me change leagues. Sorry Matt I know you are trying hard.
Every league has always had a problem with teams basically shutting down when they felt they had no chance. I doubt that there really is a solution. Here's an idea to consider. Raise the buy in to $25. Use $20 of each person as you've talked about whether you pay to 5 or 3 teams. Reserve the other $5 per team to pay out to teams 10-13. Or maybe to the 3 teams who are sitting in the bottom 5 on August 1 (or whatever date) who gain the most points by year end. So basically you are giving the bottom 5 a reason to move.
Would it work, hell if I know.
I’m not sure giving payouts to teams 10-13 makes much sense if teams 6-9 get nothing.
I’m trying to keep it simple, and think the 1-5 payouts would be sufficient to get people more involved. As you suggested, , there isn’t a total solution… managers will drop out if they know they’re out of it, but this could make it a more difficult decision. I think it might also motivate others to sign up, if we have some that aren’t interested b/c of the buy in.
My thought is that those in 6-9 are probably in a position to try for 5th place until very late in the season. That was my intention for a part of Sept.
Then the ones in 14 and 15 would be looking at maybe a payoff for finishing in 10-13.
One thing I think needs to be done, is put in a trade deadline. Maybe Sept 1. If you have money on the table it increase the possibility of #2 and #15 getting together during last month on deals. I know you have a veto system but I don't think it will work very well unless someones trading Judge for Pozo.
That said, I’d have no problem with adding a September 1st deadline.