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Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:41 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 19:22 pm Cranny remember the Spring you were touting that our MO had so many starters(6-7 I believe) that there weren’t enough innings to go around???
Well one of those fellas was just outrighted…..Oh Zack Thompson….what could’ve been

Yes, injuries will do that to a pitcher. Don't ya think, Goldfan? Just hoping that Hjerpe and Roby come back strong. And Mathews gets his velocity back.

And what happens if these three don’t produce. Hope for on the fence prospects is a dangerous way to man a team.

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:43 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:41 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 19:22 pm Cranny remember the Spring you were touting that our MO had so many starters(6-7 I believe) that there weren’t enough innings to go around???
Well one of those fellas was just outrighted…..Oh Zack Thompson….what could’ve been

Yes, injuries will do that to a pitcher. Don't ya think, Goldfan? Just hoping that Hjerpe and Roby come back strong. And Mathews gets his velocity back.

And what happens if these three don’t produce. Hope for on the fence prospects is a dangerous way to man a team.

You then have to look to Mautz, Henderson, etc.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

#1. Dewitt's fortune is asset based and he isn't cash rich like other deep pocket owners. Despite this, the Cardinals have consistently been in the top ten in payroll in the past. Since Covid, they have scaled back. They lost a ton of money during covid and revenue has been down the last few years.

#2. It's not about how much but it's how it's spent. The Cardinals have lost touch with player development over the last decade and has lead to them making terrible FA and trade decisions. Taking a step back and using resources on player development is a smart decision. Should have happened 5 years ago but Dewitt was more focused on Ballpark village than the team.

#3. Lockout. Dewitt is very close with Manfred and is likely influencing the push for a salary cap and ensuing lockout. I think he has been operating since covid with these facts in mind

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:13 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

Not how I took it. He said he couldn’t understand why some people in their eighties are resistant to big change, and think they are right all the time. I don’t think he was referencing himself.

He’s right to an extent. Some old people are that way. And. Some are not.

As for why they are that way, my take, as you age you get paranoid about loss. Simple side effect of aging.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:13 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

What the hell are you talking about? You can’t handle change, and you think you’re right all the time? Now you are stalking for sure.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:03 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:43 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:41 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 19:22 pm Cranny remember the Spring you were touting that our MO had so many starters(6-7 I believe) that there weren’t enough innings to go around???
Well one of those fellas was just outrighted…..Oh Zack Thompson….what could’ve been

Yes, injuries will do that to a pitcher. Don't ya think, Goldfan? Just hoping that Hjerpe and Roby come back strong. And Mathews gets his velocity back.

And what happens if these three don’t produce. Hope for on the fence prospects is a dangerous way to man a team.

You then have to look to Mautz, Henderson, etc.

Remember when we sold off our entire rotation that year and were left with Matz and Miles as SP……which is quite odd since you confidently stated we had 6-7 SP’s……anyway, where are all the “prospects” received in return for 3 ML Starters??? You’d think out of that massive sell off that at least one would make his way to the big club??
And this is my point…..all this talk of getting “prospects” through trades and building through trades has proven out to be mostly a non-starter. Unless Bloom returns HIGH draft picks and drafts HIGH this club is not going to be appreciably better. They’re exchanging older JAGS for younger JAGS. And you’re getting all excited about minor league HOPE that never comes.
Keep the worthy talent already on the club
Hope high picks pan out
Spend $$ on talented FA
Is the only way out of this mess

Red, be careful...you're dealing with a very sensitive person who believes they are a Mod
He's reported me because he got his feelings hurt!

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:19 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:13 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

Not how I took it. He said he couldn’t understand why some people in their eighties are resistant to big change, and think they are right all the time. I don’t think he was referencing himself.

He’s right to an extent. Some old people are that way. And. Some are not.

As for why they are that way, my take, as you age you get paranoid about loss. Simple side effect of aging.

Actually that's not what he said, SB. He was making a comment about older people in general. Read it again.

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 12:15 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:19 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:13 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

Not how I took it. He said he couldn’t understand why some people in their eighties are resistant to big change, and think they are right all the time. I don’t think he was referencing himself.

He’s right to an extent. Some old people are that way. And. Some are not.

As for why they are that way, my take, as you age you get paranoid about loss. Simple side effect of aging.

Actually that's not what he said, SB. He was making a comment about older people in general. Read it again.

Even if I was, so what. I guess I hurt your feelings and hit a sore spot. Like I said some older people are stuck in the mud, can't admit change or they are wrong. YOU have never in all your years posting admitted being wrong, not once!

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 12:19 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 12:15 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:19 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:13 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:35 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:07 am

OldRed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 08:04 am

Cranny wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 07:44 am

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:51 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 21:15 pm Simp alert

2 simps alert.

you have stalkers

True. They've been stalking and trolling for over a year now. The Odd Couple. Strange bedfellows. One would think they would get tired of it after awhile and move on to more constructive baseball discussion.

On my end I'm not stalking. We just have a completely different viewpoint on the status on how the Cardinals are run and our interest in Major League baseball. If a person doesn't agree with you, you don't consider it a "constructive baseball discussion". As I have said, older people often can't handle change and think they are right all the time. That includes you and Mr. DeWitt your friend, who you vehemently agree with.

Personal question for you OldRed.
Your title is oldred, but how old are you exactly?

I'm 80 years young.

So, in your own words, you can’t handle change and you think you’re right all the time? LOL.

Not how I took it. He said he couldn’t understand why some people in their eighties are resistant to big change, and think they are right all the time. I don’t think he was referencing himself.

He’s right to an extent. Some old people are that way. And. Some are not.

As for why they are that way, my take, as you age you get paranoid about loss. Simple side effect of aging.

Actually that's not what he said, SB. He was making a comment about older people in general. Read it again.

Even if I was, so what. I guess I hurt your feelings and hit a sore spot. Like I said some older people are stuck in the mud, can't admit change or they are wrong. YOU have never in all your years posting admitted being wrong, not once!

Look in the mirror, Red. You'll see a person with the same characteristics as you say other older people have. What goes around comes around.