Bloom will listen to interest for Donovan and Noot

[ScotchMIrish]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Since Donovan is the better defensive second baseman wouldn't you move Wetherholt to OF? Defense up the middle is one part of winning.

[ramfandan]

I wouldn't move JJ to OF currently. He has been an infielder thru all of college and now minor league ball too. Why convert him to a new position having to learn all the nuances of an OF . Let him concentrate fully on his hitting and not be concerned about fielding in the OF is my take on it.

[Ozziesfan41]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

You also incorrectly advised they keep fedde and helsley until July because they would have higher trade value and help the cardinals win lol bad wrong about that

[Melville]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

You also incorrectly advised they keep fedde and helsley until July because they would have higher trade value and help the cardinals win lol bad wrong about that

Nope.
I said months in advance exactly what Mo would do.
And I perfectly explained his rationale.
And he did precisely what I said he would do, when I said he would do it.
He wanted to "wait and see" where the team was at in the standings rather than write off the season before it began.
I said that consistently for several months before opening day
Obviously, I was correct.

[Ozziesfan41]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

You also incorrectly advised they keep fedde and helsley until July because they would have higher trade value and help the cardinals win lol bad wrong about that

Nope.
I said months in advance exactly what Mo would do.
And I perfectly explained his rationale.
And he did precisely what I said he would do, when I said he would do it.
He wanted to "wait and see" where the team was at in the standings rather than write off the season before it began.
I said that consistently for several months before opening day
Obviously, I was correct.

You said he should we even debated it i said trade them you said no they should keep them they will help them win and if they are out of it they can be traded because their value will be higher. You were obviously incorrect per the usual it was very similar to your Donovan statement only with different names

[Melville]

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

[Cranny]

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

[Melville]

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

[Cusecards]

Well....I’m good!
Got to end the day getting the usual laugh seeing ME-ville the Sideshow Clown make a narcissistic fool out of himself.
LMAO

[Ozziesfan41]

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

[Cusecards]

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

That’s ME-ville the Sideshow Clown at his best!
Biggest hypocritical fraud on the forum.

[Ozziesfan41]

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

That’s ME-ville the Sideshow Clown at his best!
Biggest hypocritical fraud on the forum.

It was even more hilarious when he kept trashing on Herrera saying he had no power and Herrera ended up with more home runs and extra base hits than his big bad power hitting never been one like him unicorn Gorman

[Bomber1]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

You also incorrectly advised they keep fedde and helsley until July because they would have higher trade value and help the cardinals win lol bad wrong about that

Nope.
I said months in advance exactly what Mo would do.
And I perfectly explained his rationale.
And he did precisely what I said he would do, when I said he would do it.
He wanted to "wait and see" where the team was at in the standings rather than write off the season before it began.
I said that consistently for several months before opening day
Obviously, I was correct.

Wow. I can’t believe I’m reading this complete and total lie by you Melville.
Everyone gets things wrong.
Your failure to admit you were wrong doesn’t surprise me.

But it is disappointing.

[Melville]

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

Worth noting you are dialoguing with someone you claimed disappeared - and on the same topic.
Facts are facts.
I will restate two.
One, like it or not, currently the Cardinals intend for Goram to be the presumptive 3B starter next year.
Two, admit it or not, even with a strikeout total that is too high, he is one of the 4 most productive bats on the team despite being badly mismanaged by the organization.

[Ozziesfan41]

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

Worth noting you are dialoguing with someone you claimed disappeared - and on the same topic.
Facts are facts.
I will restate two.
One, like it or not, currently the Cardinals intend for Goram to be the presumptive 3B starter next year.
Two, admit it or not, even with a strikeout total that is too high, he is one of the 4 most productive bats on the team despite being badly mismanaged by the organization.

Yes very badly mismanaged they keep trying to make him an everyday player when he’s not.

[Cusecards]

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

It is rather peculiar that you responded to my post in obvious anticipation of earning a reply - and then complain when you receive it.
Equally odd that you want to make it about me, rather than the topic under discussion.
A kind reminder
It is never about me
I am only and always about the game.
And always kind and gracious in remaining so, even when others lack that ability.
Now, to the topic at hand.
Whether folks like it or not,and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just admit when you’re wrong. Like you’ve failed to do in the past. As has been pointed out by others.

Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others endeavor to make it so.
Being kind and gracious by nature, I simply accept that folks are going to do as they choose.
And me?
I am only and always about the game.
To wit:
Whether folks like it or not, and despite the extent to which some are slave to their emotions, odds are currently overwhelming that Gorman will start 2026 as the assumptive starter at 3B.

Just because he will start doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb. I can tell you what will happen just like I told everyone would happen this past offseason he will suck have a hot streak everyone will be saying he’s figured it out then he will suck and at the end of the year his numbers suck. It was hilarious when you emerged during his hot streak patting yourself on the back about how brilliant you are about him and I told you it wouldn’t last he would suck again and his numbers would suck then sure enough he sucked again and his numbers sucked and you disappeared

That’s ME-ville the Sideshow Clown at his best!
Biggest hypocritical fraud on the forum.

It was even more hilarious when he kept trashing on Herrera saying he had no power and Herrera ended up with more home runs and extra base hits than his big bad power hitting never been one like him unicorn Gorman

The guy has serious issues which in real life don’t really matter to us.
Like you....I just want to have civil baseball discussions.
And most posters(like us!) do also. We can agree to disagree but that is what an “opinion” forum is about.
LMAO.....ME-ville CLAIMS to be about that “without bias” but he is in fact the biggest hypocrite on the forum:
“Never about me always about the game AND I resent anyone who says otherwise”!
Seriously?
Those words come after:
“As I alone predicted”
“As I perfectly pointed out”
“Easy Obvious Correct”
“AS I stated years ago”
“Keep reading keep learning”

LOL you can’t make this stuff up!
NEVER ABOUT ME huh???????
Priceless. Have a good one my friend!