2027 minor league pitching depth

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Carp4Cy
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:58 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:54 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
Don't know what you mean about Hjerpe. I think Matthews has probably made his last AAA start for now.
Hjerpe will be 26. He’s been hurt so many times and walk so many is he even worth keeping on the 40 man or should we just trade him for what we can get?
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Whatashame wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:16 pm The depth is impressive, let’s see how we can develop this depth. Son big arms for sure.

How would it look if McGreevy and Pallante were our 4 and 5 guys instead of our 1 and two guys.
Color me optimistic on the pitching depth in our system.
I’ll definitely be following Duce’s daily threads as usual!!
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:32 pm Agree on Lin being bullpen bound. If that is the case, he could make St Louis next year. If he remains a starter look for him in 2028.

They need a real promotion/usage plan so that these guys don't stall out at any level just because there is no room to move them up. This starts by creating churn at the top (MLB). They need to trade May and one other pitcher (Leahy or Liberatore get my vote) to create two rotation openings. This will allow Mathews, Mautz, Dobbins, Fitts, Hjerpe, and Roby to contend for open spots next spring. The second way to create openings is to move some pitchers to the bullpen. Lin, Pete Hansen, maybe Hjerpe, and Ty Van Dyke would be candidates for that. The third way to create openings is to move 1 or 2 in trades. Gotta be careful there. In some way, they need to be able to promote 2-3 pitchers who are doing well at every level. Doesn't happen right if the whole thing is backed up.
I wouldn't trade Leahy to open a spot for the pitchers you mentioned.

The Cardinals have years of control over him and he may very well wind up being the diamond in the rough.

I would deal Libby and May (of which he is a foregone conclusion) before Leahy or Pallante.

I'm had this feeling for the past month Leahy may wind up being a lot better than people thought.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:03 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:58 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:54 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
Don't know what you mean about Hjerpe. I think Matthews has probably made his last AAA start for now.
Hjerpe will be 26. He’s been hurt so many times and walk so many is he even worth keeping on the 40 man or should we just trade him for what we can get?
Is this Walker part 2.... I don't think we're giving up on Hjerpe.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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11WSChamps wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:14 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:32 pm Agree on Lin being bullpen bound. If that is the case, he could make St Louis next year. If he remains a starter look for him in 2028.

They need a real promotion/usage plan so that these guys don't stall out at any level just because there is no room to move them up. This starts by creating churn at the top (MLB). They need to trade May and one other pitcher (Leahy or Liberatore get my vote) to create two rotation openings. This will allow Mathews, Mautz, Dobbins, Fitts, Hjerpe, and Roby to contend for open spots next spring. The second way to create openings is to move some pitchers to the bullpen. Lin, Pete Hansen, maybe Hjerpe, and Ty Van Dyke would be candidates for that. The third way to create openings is to move 1 or 2 in trades. Gotta be careful there. In some way, they need to be able to promote 2-3 pitchers who are doing well at every level. Doesn't happen right if the whole thing is backed up.
I wouldn't trade Leahy to open a spot for the pitchers you mentioned.

The Cardinals have years of control over him and he may very well wind up being the diamond in the rough.

I would deal Libby and May (of which he is a foregone conclusion) before Leahy or Pallante.

I'm had this feeling for the past month Leahy may wind up being a lot better than people thought.
+ same here.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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hugeCardfan wrote: 26 Jul 2026 21:50 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:03 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:58 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:54 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
Don't know what you mean about Hjerpe. I think Matthews has probably made his last AAA start for now.
Hjerpe will be 26. He’s been hurt so many times and walk so many is he even worth keeping on the 40 man or should we just trade him for what we can get?
Is this Walker part 2.... I don't think we're giving up on Hjerpe.
Walker was nowhere near that old, or that far away from the majors.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Carp4Cy wrote: 27 Jul 2026 18:07 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 26 Jul 2026 21:50 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 18:03 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:58 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:54 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
Don't know what you mean about Hjerpe. I think Matthews has probably made his last AAA start for now.
Hjerpe will be 26. He’s been hurt so many times and walk so many is he even worth keeping on the 40 man or should we just trade him for what we can get?
Is this Walker part 2.... I don't think we're giving up on Hjerpe.
Walker was nowhere near that old, or that far away from the majors.
You might be a little full of chit. He has some of the best stuff of any pitcher on Cardinals staff. He's older but that comes with being a college draft. Yeah, he was hurt; comes with the territory of pitching. If he's traded we may finally get to see him pitch extraordinarily well for some other team. His K/BB ratio is roughly 3:1 since 2024. I wouldn't trade him under any circumstances.