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Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 07:03 am
by 12xu
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
In his college and minor league career, Wetherholt played 114 games at SS, 92 games at 2B, and 67 games at 3B. He is very capable at all 3 positions. Right now, other players are being moved around on the IF to see how they can perform. Once the regular season starts, Wetherholt will have a regular starting position.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 07:18 am
by 2ninr
12xu wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:03 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
In his college and minor league career, Wetherholt played 114 games at SS, 92 games at 2B, and 67 games at 3B. He is very capable at all 3 positions. Right now, other players are being moved around on the IF to see how they can perform. Once the regular season starts, Wetherholt will have a regular starting position.
And it won't be ss or third base.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 07:20 am
by 12xu
2ninr wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:18 am
12xu wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:03 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
In his college and minor league career, Wetherholt played 114 games at SS, 92 games at 2B, and 67 games at 3B. He is very capable at all 3 positions. Right now, other players are being moved around on the IF to see how they can perform. Once the regular season starts, Wetherholt will have a regular starting position.
And it won't be ss or third base.
Correct, unless there is an injury.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 07:43 am
by Goldfan
2ninr wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 05:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 18:45 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 17:43 pm
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
That’s my biggest peeve with our hitting instructors. All they have to do is show video of our great hitters and see their eyes on the ball meeting the bat. Musial, McGwire, Pujols, Simmons, Edmonds, Walker, Yadi, Holliday etc. Gorman is going to break his neck yanking it to pull. Whitey or Tony would have fixed it without hitting coaches.
Even on Gormans opposite field HR a couple days ago his front leg was bailing out. He rarely keeps his head on the ball through swing and keeps his right leg in. If he did he would be lethal. I have no idea how and who let him progress through the Cards system hitting like that let alone being promoted to MLB
Thats why I’m so disappointed that we didn't change the manager and coaches. We did in the minors but not at the big league level. Cant understand why Chaim would sign on to the insanity of expecting different results.
You guys crack me up.
Which part of the crackery is your favorite?
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
by ScotchMIrish
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 09:30 am
by woofy25
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
It’s ST. This is what you do this time of year. Geez, people
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 09:31 am
by woofy25
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
That’s my biggest peeve with our hitting instructors. All they have to do is show video of our great hitters and see their eyes on the ball meeting the bat. Musial, McGwire, Pujols, Simmons, Edmonds, Walker, Yadi, Holliday etc. Gorman is going to break his neck yanking it to pull. Whitey or Tony would have fixed it without hitting coaches.
It’s that easy, huh? What an unreal oversimplification.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 10:43 am
by Cardinals4Life
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Do you really think the only time JJ gets any groundballs during spring is in the games?
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 10:53 am
by Galatians221jb1
woofy25 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 09:31 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
That’s my biggest peeve with our hitting instructors. All they have to do is show video of our great hitters and see their eyes on the ball meeting the bat. Musial, McGwire, Pujols, Simmons, Edmonds, Walker, Yadi, Holliday etc. Gorman is going to break his neck yanking it to pull. Whitey or Tony would have fixed it without hitting coaches.
It’s that easy, huh? What an unreal oversimplification.
See the ball, hit the ball. The simpler the better. Stop pulling the ball and be aggressive in the strike zone early in the count so that you do not fall behind and give the pitcher a further advantage. It's all simple. Walker was fine until our hitting coaches got hold of him. Musial never worried about his launch angle.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 10:54 am
by ScotchMIrish
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:43 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Do you really think the only time JJ gets any groundballs during spring is in the games?
I would have him spending a lot of time with a retired second baseman like Biggio did when he converted to 2B and worked extensively with Bill Doran. Last year Wetherholt only played 20 games at 2B. I'm not confident they have a plan. Similar to Liberatore being a starter, then a reliever, then back to starter.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 12:20 pm
by Galatians221jb1
woofy25 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 09:31 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
That’s my biggest peeve with our hitting instructors. All they have to do is show video of our great hitters and see their eyes on the ball meeting the bat. Musial, McGwire, Pujols, Simmons, Edmonds, Walker, Yadi, Holliday etc. Gorman is going to break his neck yanking it to pull. Whitey or Tony would have fixed it without hitting coaches.
It’s that easy, huh? What an unreal oversimplification.
Ted Williams agrees. KISS: Keep it simple stupid.
https://x.com/jimfrombaseball/status/20 ... 73883?s=46
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
by Cardinals4Life
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:54 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:43 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Do you really think the only time JJ gets any groundballs during spring is in the games?
I would have him spending a lot of time with a retired second baseman like Biggio did when he converted to 2B and worked extensively with Bill Doran. Last year Wetherholt only played 20 games at 2B. I'm not confident they have a plan. Similar to Liberatore being a starter, then a reliever, then back to starter.
I don't know what to tell you guy. You don't seem to understand what people are telling you. JJ can play 2B. It isn't NEW to him in the least bit.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 13:54 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:54 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:43 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Do you really think the only time JJ gets any groundballs during spring is in the games?
I would have him spending a lot of time with a retired second baseman like Biggio did when he converted to 2B and worked extensively with Bill Doran. Last year Wetherholt only played 20 games at 2B. I'm not confident they have a plan. Similar to Liberatore being a starter, then a reliever, then back to starter.
I don't know what to tell you guy. You don't seem to understand what people are telling you. JJ can play 2B. It isn't NEW to him in the least bit.
lol people will freak out over anything they freaked out over him going 0 for his first 7
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 14:04 pm
by MrPostman01
11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 15:12 pm
He didn't hit that HR the right way.
Hopefully he hit it the left way.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 14:11 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 13:35 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:54 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 10:43 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 07:47 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑27 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
Is he taking ground balls and pivot practice at 2B on a back field somewhere?
2 errors in 2 games at 2B. 1 game at SS. 1 game off. 1 game at DH.
I’m not a fan of moving them around. Biggest complaint I have of Oli’s management style. He ought to know where he wants his players to play. I understand trying Saggese out in the outfield, but decide on LF or CF. Quit moving them around. Edman had his best season when he only played second base. What kind of a manager doesn’t know where he wants to play his players? He wants versatility. Players need stability.
If Wetherholt is taking reps on a back field every day then I understand what they are doing but the usage thus far makes no sense.
Do you really think the only time JJ gets any groundballs during spring is in the games?
I would have him spending a lot of time with a retired second baseman like Biggio did when he converted to 2B and worked extensively with Bill Doran. Last year Wetherholt only played 20 games at 2B. I'm not confident they have a plan. Similar to Liberatore being a starter, then a reliever, then back to starter.
I don't know what to tell you guy. You don't seem to understand what people are telling you. JJ can play 2B. It isn't NEW to him in the least bit.
That's great news.
Re: Wetherholt goes 422’ to dead center
Posted: 28 Feb 2026 15:13 pm
by rockondlouie
After today JJW slashing .375/.615/.750/1.365
