Herrera isn't slow.Youboughtit wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 23:33 pmI have no faith in Hererra having a fielding position. Slow and no arm. I think he’s a prototypical DH. Maybe Rodruigez in OF but Baez will be there for sure. I feel they need to move 1-2 catchers and get real OF. Too many DH/C on this rosterclemonsonroots wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 23:11 pmin a couple of years, bernal at catcher, herrera in left, crooks at backup c and rodriguez at dh. gorman will kick rocksYouboughtit wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 22:39 pmPozo Hererra and Rodruigez? Only one DH spot and Gorman might be in it.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 21:55 pm IMO he is the catcher for the next 6+ years in STL.
His time could be as early as the 2nd half this year.
Pages is just a guy.
Crooks would form a solid #2 to Bernal
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What makes you say this?hugeCardfan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 03:00 amNot so fast. As great as Bernal may be, Rainiel, may surpass him. Rod is 2 years younger than Bernal and a season behind him. He's already exhibiting more power than Bernal, although neither has reached the age to realize max power. Both appear to be extraordinary athletes. No one in the organization is hinting that Rainiel may not be an everyday catcher.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 02:32 am Yeah a lot of people forget about him and leave him out bc Rodriguez, but Bernal is the guy at C, switch hitter too, Rodriguez at DH.
We will have the enviable task to figure out which one, Bernal or Rodriguez, gets the nod. Bernal has the chance to solidify his position but Rainiel is snapping at his heels. In the meantime we have a talented catcher in Crooks to trade over the next couple years.
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CT also likes to overblow everything. Most on here have never seen Rodriguez play. Most on here have never seen Herrera play either! Lol They like to read something somebody posts and recite it as fact.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 08:51 amNobody was hinting that Herrera was a bad defensive catcher when he was navigating the low minors either.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 03:00 amNo one in the organization is hinting that Rainiel may not be an everyday catcher.
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Agree, mostly.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:15 amThis is my thought as well. A combination of Bernal/Crooks behind the plate would be very solid.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 08:56 am I think he could be here later this season if/when P. Pages is traded (and that should happen ASAP).
I'd trade Pages.
I'd roll with Herrera/Crooks right now.
If Herrera steps up, then great! (Then you have a really nice problem!)
If not, then you have Bernal/Crooks combo when Bernal is ready.
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Cards just seem to have a skill at finding GG catchers
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You’re right.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:15 amThis is my thought as well. A combination of Bernal/Crooks behind the plate would be very solid.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 08:56 am I think he could be here later this season if/when P. Pages is traded (and that should happen ASAP).
Let’s hope these ‘surprises’ on the mlb roster are minimized under Bloom.
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He isn’t catching or playing any OF even in ST. They moved Sagesse there instead. I see no plan for him by the Cardinals other than DHCardinals4Life wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:27 amHerrera isn't slow.Youboughtit wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 23:33 pmI have no faith in Hererra having a fielding position. Slow and no arm. I think he’s a prototypical DH. Maybe Rodruigez in OF but Baez will be there for sure. I feel they need to move 1-2 catchers and get real OF. Too many DH/C on this rosterclemonsonroots wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 23:11 pmin a couple of years, bernal at catcher, herrera in left, crooks at backup c and rodriguez at dh. gorman will kick rocksYouboughtit wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 22:39 pmPozo Hererra and Rodruigez? Only one DH spot and Gorman might be in it.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 21:55 pm IMO he is the catcher for the next 6+ years in STL.
His time could be as early as the 2nd half this year.
Pages is just a guy.
Crooks would form a solid #2 to Bernal
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Has caught 0 games and as of Monday not even caught a bullpen in STCardinals4Life wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:26 amPozo is not in the long-term plans.Youboughtit wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 22:39 pmPozo Hererra and Rodruigez? Only one DH spot and Gorman might be in it.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑25 Feb 2026 21:55 pm IMO he is the catcher for the next 6+ years in STL.
His time could be as early as the 2nd half this year.
Pages is just a guy.
Crooks would form a solid #2 to Bernal
Rodriguez is still a couple years away.
Gorman will either sink or swim at 3B this year.
Herrera will likely catch mostly this year.
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Let's hope it happens midseason if Bernal is having a good year at Memphis and Bloom can dump Pages.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:15 amThis is my thought as well. A combination of Bernal/Crooks behind the plate would be very solid.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 08:56 am I think he could be here later this season if/when P. Pages is traded (and that should happen ASAP).
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Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
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With possibly the best of all R.R. steaming towards St. Louis in a few years!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:12 am Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
I'd like to see Pages gone before camp breaks.
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To the point of clutter.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:12 am Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
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Maybe they are just hanging on to them for the early part of ST when they usually have extra catchers around to work out the pitcher and plan to trade one before Opening Day. That's a long shot rationalization, but the best I can come up with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:15 amWith possibly the best of all R.R. steaming towards St. Louis in a few years!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:12 am Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
I'd like to see Pages gone before camp breaks.
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Yes that and not trading Romero are my two disappointments about the offseason. Doesn't make sense not to have traded Crooks or at least Pages. I would prefer they trade Crooks because he'll bring back more than Pages.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:19 amMaybe they are just hanging on to them for the early part of ST when they usually have extra catchers around to work out the pitcher and plan to trade one before Opening Day. That's a long shot rationalization, but the best I can come up with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:15 amWith possibly the best of all R.R. steaming towards St. Louis in a few years!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:12 am Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
I'd like to see Pages gone before camp breaks.
Crooks + Romero could have gotten a decent prospect I suspect.
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Likely and logical.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:19 amMaybe they are just hanging on to them for the early part of ST when they usually have extra catchers around to work out the pitcher and plan to trade one before Opening Day. That's a long shot rationalization, but the best I can come up with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:15 amWith possibly the best of all R.R. steaming towards St. Louis in a few years!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 10:12 am Bernal, and to a degree Pozo, is why I fully expected the Cardinals to move one of Pages or Crooks this offseason.
Pages, Crooks, Herrera, Pozo, and Bernal not far off - that's a lot of depth.
I'd like to see Pages gone before camp breaks.
If a contender loses their major league catcher or back-up during STing and doesn't have a kid at AAA they feel is ready for MLB, then hopefully Bloom can thin the herd and move on from Pages.
Long shot also, best I can do too.
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The Cardinals’ lineups per catchers has been odd so far. Here is a list of the games played so far;
Bernal-3 Pages - 2 Pozo - 2 Rodriguez - 1 at DH Herrera - 0 Crooks - 1 Tarlow - 3 Yerzy - 2 Linarez - 1 Compos - 1
They aren’t giving Crooks much of a look so far, nor Herrera due to his elbow, I assume. Lots of Spring left, so who knows what they’re thinking is. I was just hopeful Crooks would get a good look. He’s been a very good RBI hitter in the minors, something that the ‘26 Cardinals could use. He was also considered a better defensive catcher by the experts than Bernal. Not my opinion, someone else posted their write ups in an earlier thread.
Bernal-3 Pages - 2 Pozo - 2 Rodriguez - 1 at DH Herrera - 0 Crooks - 1 Tarlow - 3 Yerzy - 2 Linarez - 1 Compos - 1
They aren’t giving Crooks much of a look so far, nor Herrera due to his elbow, I assume. Lots of Spring left, so who knows what they’re thinking is. I was just hopeful Crooks would get a good look. He’s been a very good RBI hitter in the minors, something that the ‘26 Cardinals could use. He was also considered a better defensive catcher by the experts than Bernal. Not my opinion, someone else posted their write ups in an earlier thread.