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Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 16:08 pm
by Shady
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 12:18 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 10:27 am
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 10:10 am
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 10:08 am
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 09:42 am
Burleson, Herrera, Wetherholt and Rodriguez.
Sounds about right, but ask that question again in 3 months regarding JJW. Minor league hitting doesn't always translate to MLB hitting.
Wonder how Rodriguez would be in the same scenario?
rodriguez is extemely young. It can only benefit him to spend a significant amount of additional time in the minor league levels
Fully agree, but would add that it is also highly beneficial for him to spend as much time as possible right now with major league players and seeing some major league pitchers.
It is kind of the same with Joshua Baez. Obviously, he would benefit from some experience at AAA. However, he needs to go up against some quality MLB pitchers in spring training.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 16:45 pm
by butsir01
Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
by 2ninr
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
by Shady
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the surplus of catchers maybe. Why trade away Burleson. At the present, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Imagine this current lineup without Burleson in it. Please try to use more common sense.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
by greyhawk
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
by Shady
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
You might be right on either Winn or Wetherholt. Not both. But I prefer keeping that middle infield tandem in place for at least the next five seasons.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:34 pm
by Voldemort
It is too soon to know who the top hitters are.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:35 pm
by Shady
Voldemort wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:34 pm
It is too soon to know who the top hitters are.
You claim to be a former hitting coach. What do think of Burleson as a hitter?
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:36 pm
by greyhawk
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
You might be right on either Winn or Wetherholt. Not both.
did you ever watch heaven can wait with warren beatty?? its fiction but in the movie warren beatty's character offers 250% of the value of the rams --- the old owner while in tears can't believe he paid that for his rams that he absolutely didn't want to sell. if someone blows away your own perceived value of a can't touch player, don't you have to listen and likely make the deal?
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:39 pm
by 2ninr
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the surplus of catchers maybe. Why trade away Burleson. At the present, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Imagine this current lineup without Burleson in it. Please try to use more common sense.
Burleson is 1/3 of a baseball player. Trade him for a whole player. See what happens when he isn't cheap any more. He gone.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 17:40 pm
by Shady
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:36 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
You might be right on either Winn or Wetherholt. Not both.
did you ever watch heaven can wait with warren beatty?? its fiction but in the movie warren beatty's character offers 250% of the value of the rams --- the old owner while in tears can't believe he paid that for his rams that he absolutely didn't want to sell. if someone blows away your own perceived value of a can't touch player, don't you have to listen and likely make the deal?
What realistic deal would you trade either Winn or Wetherholt for, right now?
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 20:28 pm
by Voldemort
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:35 pm
Voldemort wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:34 pm
It is too soon to know who the top hitters are.
You claim to be a former hitting coach. What do think of Burleson as a hitter?
I claim to be an ex-expert. As I noted in one of my posts, most of the experts I have met didn't know much at all. Burleson is too vertical or upright. He needs to make the changes that the videos show Walker is attempting. However, as a former hitting coach, I would have to see whether Burleson is failing before I would suggest any changes. Take anything I saw with more than a grain of salt.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 20:35 pm
by Cardinals1964
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 09:42 am
Burleson, Herrera, Wetherholt and Rodriguez.
Don’t know. Nobody knows.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 20:35 pm
by Shady
Voldemort wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 20:28 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:35 pm
Voldemort wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:34 pm
It is too soon to know who the top hitters are.
You claim to be a former hitting coach. What do think of Burleson as a hitter?
I claim to be an ex-expert. As I noted in one of my posts, most of the experts I have met didn't know much at all. Burleson is too vertical or upright. He needs to make the changes that the videos show Walker is attempting. However, as a former hitting coach, I would have to see whether Burleson is failing before I would suggest any changes. Take anything I saw with more than a grain of salt.
Burleson is a really good MLB hitter. But I kind of agree. He could use a little more knee bend. It might help him deliver more power.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
by greyhawk
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:40 pm
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:36 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
You might be right on either Winn or Wetherholt. Not both.
did you ever watch heaven can wait with warren beatty?? its fiction but in the movie warren beatty's character offers 250% of the value of the rams --- the old owner while in tears can't believe he paid that for his rams that he absolutely didn't want to sell. if someone blows away your own perceived value of a can't touch player, don't you have to listen and likely make the deal?
What realistic deal would you trade either Winn or Wetherholt for, right now?
not my job and not my area of knowledge or expertise -- i don't know what other teams have that they would trade for either, i am just suggesting the cardinals have to have an internal notion of their worth and what they would listen to and might accept in any trade.
Re: Are these the top four hitters in the Cardinals organization right now?
Posted: 23 Feb 2026 23:34 pm
by Cardinals1964
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:33 pm
greyhawk wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:32 pm
Shady wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 16:56 pm
Bloom would trade Burly in a NY minute for a good outfield prospect.
Wrong. Gorman or one of the catchers maybe. Why trade awayBurleson, the most productive hitter on the team at 27? Please try to use more common sense.
for the right offer everyone on this roster is tradeable --- save maybe winn and weatherholt....but even they should be available just for a borderline crazy price.
You might be right on either Winn or Wetherholt. Not both. But I prefer keeping that middle infield tandem in place for at least the next five seasons.
JJ hasn’t done anything to think he will last 5 years.