Bill Mazerowski Passes

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Re: Bill Mazerowski Passes

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OldRed wrote: 21 Feb 2026 10:51 am
nighthawk wrote: 21 Feb 2026 10:32 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:13 am
nighthawk wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:07 am
OldRed wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:01 am
nighthawk wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:04 am No one was better at turning the double play.
Javier was also pretty good.
He was no where near Maz on the DP. No one was.


I disagree
, Javier as I recall watching never got taken out at second. But agree Maz was as good as they get. Also, Javier was the best I ever saw going down the right field line on pop ups. I may be a little older than you, but I saw Javier play his entire career for the Cardinals.

Julian Javier was a remarkable second baseman known for his exceptional defensive skills and ability to turn double plays.
He played for the St. Louis Cardinals and was recognized for his speed and agility on the field, earning him the nickname "The Phantom" for his ability to avoid baserunners.
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In his career, he turned a significant number of double plays, which contributed to his reputation as one of the best defensive second basemen in baseball history.
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His defensive prowess was highlighted by his ability to complete double play relays effectively, showcasing his talent in turning plays.
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Overall, Julian Javier's performance at second base is a testament to his defensive skills and his impact on the game.
Great. But Javier turned 907 DPs or 1 every 14.3 innings played. Mazeroski turned an MLB record 1,706 DPs or one every 10.7 innings. Nellie Fox ranks second in turning DPs, but is 87 DPs behind Maz despite the fact that Fox played 1,881 more innings at second base. The active leader in DPs today is Altuve. He has 1,016. The most recent player to get even within 300 of Maz was Robinson Cano and he's 288 behind.

Guess why Maz contemporary Javier never won a Gold Glove?
I never said Javier was better. But it takes a lot of baserunners to turn double plays.

nighthawk wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:04 am
No one was better at turning the double play.

All I said was this.
Javier was also pretty good.
You need to read what you wrote and not deny the obvious. See above.
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