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We sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
Well there’s no way to sell high on a guy who is aging and regressed three seasons in a row and sucked the past two seasons unless you keep him and a miracle happens. He will have a better season but not a good season in Arizona because it’s a hitter friendly park and some people will probably be silly enough to think he would have had a similar season if he stayed in St. Louis in a hitter unfriendly park that he complained about multiple timesCarp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
"Nado homers in first ST at bat"Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:45 pm Could be a sign of a great season for him, yeah yeah I know only spring training
Sometimes you just have to move on.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
I agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
I disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
Does he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
He will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
Does it bother you that I don’t hate Arenado and don’t think he’s a loser, or coward, or whatever other ridiculous labels he’s been given here for getting old and not winning multiple MVPs?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:09 pmHe will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
A very unhitter friendly park that he complained about constantly to a very friendly park so yea he will have a better year hit more home runs there but it still won’t be a good year but I’ll bet you’ll be one of the ones saying he would have had the same year if he stayed in St. Louis lol
I don’t hate arenado either but I don’t have to hate a player to realize they do in fact suck. And if that’s true and the humidor and it made it as bad as St. Louis then yea he will suck there alsoCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:17 pmDoes it bother you that I don’t hate Arenado and don’t think he’s a loser, or coward, or whatever other ridiculous labels he’s been given here for getting old and not winning multiple MVPs?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:09 pmHe will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
A very unhitter friendly park that he complained about constantly to a very friendly park so yea he will have a better year hit more home runs there but it still won’t be a good year but I’ll bet you’ll be one of the ones saying he would have had the same year if he stayed in St. Louis lol
Also, a humidor was installed at Chase Park a few years back and since it has been much more fair.
I’m not saying I even wanted him as our starting 3B. I’m just saying that when compared to our other alternatives, his amount of suck has a correlation to the potential replacements. If he was blocking a stud prospect…sure, DFA him if necessary. All his departure did was open the door for Nolan Gorman, and IIRC, you’re one of the ones who actually realizes how bad NG sucks. If he’s the alternative, then they should’ve just kept NA until the deadline.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:23 pmI don’t hate arenado either but I don’t have to hate a player to realize they do in fact suck. And if that’s true and the humidor and it made it as bad as St. Louis then yea he will suck there alsoCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:17 pmDoes it bother you that I don’t hate Arenado and don’t think he’s a loser, or coward, or whatever other ridiculous labels he’s been given here for getting old and not winning multiple MVPs?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:09 pmHe will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
A very unhitter friendly park that he complained about constantly to a very friendly park so yea he will have a better year hit more home runs there but it still won’t be a good year but I’ll bet you’ll be one of the ones saying he would have had the same year if he stayed in St. Louis lol
Also, a humidor was installed at Chase Park a few years back and since it has been much more fair.
So Randy and Adolis wouldn't have had the seasons they did if they had stayed in STL, ok...Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:33 pmWell there’s no way to sell high on a guy who is aging and regressed three seasons in a row and sucked the past two seasons unless you keep him and a miracle happens. He will have a better season but not a good season in Arizona because it’s a hitter friendly park and some people will probably be silly enough to think he would have had a similar season if he stayed in St. Louis in a hitter unfriendly park that he complained about multiple timesCarp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
To be clear I would not have been upset if they kept arenado I said it before he was traded I wouldnt care if they kept him sure he sucks at hitting but he still is great defensively and Gorman sucks at hitting and fielding. I’m also not upset at him being traded though because I don’t think Gorman has a full season runway I think if he’s butchering it still in the field and still sucking at the plate after a month or two they will drastically reduce his playing time and go to saggase or someone else they would not do that if they kept arenado he would be playing everyday no matter what and the cardinals probably would definitely not be able to trade himCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:29 pmI’m not saying I even wanted him as our starting 3B. I’m just saying that when compared to our other alternatives, his amount of suck has a correlation to the potential replacements. If he was blocking a stud prospect…sure, DFA him if necessary. All his departure did was open the door for Nolan Gorman, and IIRC, you’re one of the ones who actually realizes how bad NG sucks. If he’s the alternative, then they should’ve just kept NA until the deadline.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:23 pmI don’t hate arenado either but I don’t have to hate a player to realize they do in fact suck. And if that’s true and the humidor and it made it as bad as St. Louis then yea he will suck there alsoCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:17 pmDoes it bother you that I don’t hate Arenado and don’t think he’s a loser, or coward, or whatever other ridiculous labels he’s been given here for getting old and not winning multiple MVPs?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:09 pmHe will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
A very unhitter friendly park that he complained about constantly to a very friendly park so yea he will have a better year hit more home runs there but it still won’t be a good year but I’ll bet you’ll be one of the ones saying he would have had the same year if he stayed in St. Louis lol
Also, a humidor was installed at Chase Park a few years back and since it has been much more fair.
I won't settle for anything less than 75%ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 15:00 pm Do we get half a home run since we are paying part of his salary?
Yeah, Gorman shouldn’t get more than a few months to show some drastic improvements on both sides. The team needs time to give someone else a chance if NG is just showing the same as always.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:47 pmTo be clear I would not have been upset if they kept arenado I said it before he was traded I wouldnt care if they kept him sure he sucks at hitting but he still is great defensively and Gorman sucks at hitting and fielding. I’m also not upset at him being traded though because I don’t think Gorman has a full season runway I think if he’s butchering it still in the field and still sucking at the plate after a month or two they will drastically reduce his playing time and go to saggase or someone else they would not do that if they kept arenado he would be playing everyday no matter what and the cardinals probably would definitely not be able to trade himCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:29 pmI’m not saying I even wanted him as our starting 3B. I’m just saying that when compared to our other alternatives, his amount of suck has a correlation to the potential replacements. If he was blocking a stud prospect…sure, DFA him if necessary. All his departure did was open the door for Nolan Gorman, and IIRC, you’re one of the ones who actually realizes how bad NG sucks. If he’s the alternative, then they should’ve just kept NA until the deadline.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:23 pmI don’t hate arenado either but I don’t have to hate a player to realize they do in fact suck. And if that’s true and the humidor and it made it as bad as St. Louis then yea he will suck there alsoCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:17 pmDoes it bother you that I don’t hate Arenado and don’t think he’s a loser, or coward, or whatever other ridiculous labels he’s been given here for getting old and not winning multiple MVPs?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:09 pmHe will have a better year because he is going to go fromCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:06 pmDoes he suck worse than the alternatives? At least he could play some defense and not strikeout 200 times. Some act like he was the worst player in MLB. I hope he has an all star year just to (bleep) off the haters that act like it wouldn’t bother them because he’s no longer a Cardinal. If he hit that bomb for us in the first spring AB, there would already be talk of comeback player of the year.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:01 pmI disagree with the keep all players who suck because you don’t want to sell low on them theory lolCorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:57 pmI agree. If the goal is to maximize our prospect return for our veterans, and not simply shed payroll, then why sell low? Not like he was blocking anyone significant at 3B. All we did was clear the way for Gorman to reach 250 strikeouts and give up runs with the glove.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 18:24 pmWe sold low. If he does well, could have gotten a lot more at the deadline so yeah, look back confirmation matters.icon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:12 pmSome people just cannot let go. We're going to have to hear about every plate appearance, I guessscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 14:58 pm And so it already begins...[fork]ing updates on ex Cards...
We could have gotten much more if he has a bounce back year, and if not, could’ve flipped him for the same bunch of nothing and paid him to play somewhere else later. Not like there’s any reinvestment of any savings right now anyway.
A very unhitter friendly park that he complained about constantly to a very friendly park so yea he will have a better year hit more home runs there but it still won’t be a good year but I’ll bet you’ll be one of the ones saying he would have had the same year if he stayed in St. Louis lol
Also, a humidor was installed at Chase Park a few years back and since it has been much more fair.
At that point especially if he continued to decline