Trading Faulk Makes No Sense

[Pierre McGuire]

Mailloux/Jiricek one of Verhoeff, Reid, or Rudolph i cant say yet that the Blues cant get at least the same quality from someone in this camp

I would rather have Carels over those guys as well as Lawrence, Malhotra or maybe Smits or Belchetz.

Right now
1 Stenberg
2 McKenna
3 Carels
4 Lawrence
5 Malhotra
6 Belchetz
7 Smits
8 Verhoeff
9 Reid
10 Rudolph

at least for me as of now

I would rather have Carels as well but I’m taking any of the those dmen over the centers.

[chuckt]

Man, does this place run hot and cold on Faulk. For most of the past two seasons, most fans wanted Faulk not only gone, but imprisoned and more than a few wanted him executed. Now, we have people wanting to hold onto him like he's the missing link to next year's Cup run. Right now, they can get a return nearing what they gave up for him 5 1/2 years ago. Let's not let another day pass before they move him, lest he suffer some freak accident getting out of bed.

This doesn't add anything to the conversation. Check my post history. I don't make emotional rants and never dismissed Faulk. He's fine for what he is and always has been. No one said he was the missing link for a cup, you're the only one being ridiculous here.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

Trade him this season while the market is thin. Retain 50% to raise the return. If you have to, take back a vet RD on an expiring contract (I.e. dumb[ash]).

Figure out your RD situation in the offseason. You have Parayko as top RD and Mailloux as your 3rd pair RD, unless they want to give him reps in the top 4.

Jiricek and Lindstein are not ready and may just get a cup of coffee. Jiricek is not jumping from juniors to the NHL unless you really want to see a trainwreck. And Lindstein needs more time. Still looks like a 5-6 Dman to me in the mold of a smaller Gunnar.

Either way, figure out the D for another season between trades, UFA or what they have in the minors like Skinner and Rosen. They are going to be a bottom dweller again next season as well.

[clemonsonroots]

Mailloux/Jiricek one of Verhoeff, Reid, or Rudolph i cant say yet that the Blues cant get at least the same quality from someone in this camp

I would rather have Carels over those guys as well as Lawrence, Malhotra or maybe Smits or Belchetz.

Right now
1 Stenberg
2 McKenna
3 Carels
4 Lawrence
5 Malhotra
6 Belchetz
7 Smits
8 Verhoeff
9 Reid
10 Rudolph

at least for me as of now

I would rather have Carels as well but I’m taking any of the those dmen over the centers.

Yeah, Carels keeps improving and if you want a guy that you know will max out his ability, that guy is it. The anthesis of a Nail Yakupov personality.

[dhsux]

Whelp the board has spoken.

I wonder what Doug and Alex think.

[BalotelliMassive]

If it was my team I would give everybody a six game trial to get going after the break and if they're still playing the same (terrible) then it's time to dump dead weight (Buchnevich) and a couple of top players like Binnington, Faulk and Kyrou.

[kimzey59]

If it was my team I would give everybody a six game trial to get going after the break and if they're still playing the same (terrible) then it's time to dump dead weight (Buchnevich) and a couple of top players like Binnington, Faulk and Kyrou.

Nice theory, except that we only have 4 games following the break before the trade deadline.

And even if we do come out hot, we're 15 points behind Edmonton for the 2nd wild card spot. We'd almost have to win out(only 25 games left in the season) to even sniff the PO's at this point.
It's just not realistic.
We're sellers.

[BalotelliMassive]

If it was my team I would give everybody a six game trial to get going after the break and if they're still playing the same (terrible) then it's time to dump dead weight (Buchnevich) and a couple of top players like Binnington, Faulk and Kyrou.

Nice theory, except that we only have 4 games following the break before the trade deadline.

And even if we do come out hot, we're 15 points behind Edmonton for the 2nd wild card spot. We'd almost have to win out(only 25 games left in the season) to even sniff the PO's at this point.
It's just not realistic.
We're sellers.

Darn - too lazy to look and was burned.

Thanks for the correction. This season's schedule has been just horrid all the way around.

[Harry S Deals]

If it was my team I would give everybody a six game trial to get going after the break and if they're still playing the same (terrible) then it's time to dump dead weight (Buchnevich) and a couple of top players like Binnington, Faulk and Kyrou.

Nice theory, except that we only have 4 games following the break before the trade deadline.

And even if we do come out hot, we're 15 points behind Edmonton for the 2nd wild card spot. We'd almost have to win out(only 25 games left in the season) to even sniff the PO's at this point.
It's just not realistic.
We're sellers.

Coming out hot is a possibility and it would suck. The Blues would have to go something like 22-3 to get close to a WC spot and that assumes several teams go really cold so that ship has sailed. the Blues will be fairly healthy and rested so they are going to bank some wins. If Army makes a few moves, Faulk, Binnie, maybe a top forward that could help keep the Blues in the Top 5 range but im not confident the Blues are picking #1 or #2.

The Jets, Rangers and Canucks are also really bad the Blues are only a few wins from 6th or 7th worst

Blues have the 21st easiest schedule left but they do still have to play Col x2, Minn x2, Carolina, NYI and Pitt.

[BluesDom]

Blues should trade Binner and Faulk. Possibly kyrou try to get max value. All three are possibly peaking. Jordan is playing great. Binner had/having good Olympics. Faulk is on fire. Trade them.

[skilles]

I wouldn't say it makes no sense but for me the price has to be right, there is value in trying to provide a competitive environment for our young players.

[Red7]

Man, does this place run hot and cold on Faulk. For most of the past two seasons, most fans wanted Faulk not only gone, but imprisoned and more than a few wanted him executed. Now, we have people wanting to hold onto him like he's the missing link to next year's Cup run. Right now, they can get a return nearing what they gave up for him 5 1/2 years ago. Let's not let another day pass before they move him, lest he suffer some freak accident getting out of bed.

This doesn't add anything to the conversation. Check my post history. I don't make emotional rants and never dismissed Faulk. He's fine for what he is and always has been. No one said he was the missing link for a cup, you're the only one being ridiculous here.

My, my, aren’t we the snowflake? Why do you feel singled out? There are others far more in favor of keeping Faulk than you. For someone who doesn’t make emotional rants, you’re sure throwing a nutty. Untwist your panties, have a cold one and chill the fork out.

[noted]

Not Trading Faulk Makes No Sense

[a smell of green grass]

Anybody see a recurring issue?

- We can't trade Faulk because we have no young backfill top 4 RHD.
- We can't trade Thomas because we have no young backfill 1C.
- Hofer better not go down, because Binner is a disaster behind our defense, and we have no young backfill Goalie.

Amazing that that is the situation we are in considering that Re-Whatever 1.0 just "completed".

[Inglewood Jack]

Anybody see a recurring issue?

- We can't trade Faulk because we have no young backfill top 4 RHD.
Faulk will be "maturing out" before the Blues become ultra-competitive again, so our prospects will have to eventually fill that void. In the meantime, the D will likely suck w/o him there. But he could possibly get a decent return. In this case gotta think about the future and not next year
- We can't trade Thomas because we have no young backfill 1C.
To me it is more important to keep strong down the center and build on that. Trading your young cost-controlled 1C would be a bad idea. You can still build around him and have a future, unlike Faulk IMO
- Hofer better not go down, because Binner is a disaster behind our defense, and we have no young backfill Goalie.
Losing players via waiver happens, and was Ellis the future? A goalie doesn't command much in a trade, and especially one having a notoriously bad year. Hofer and Binner's contracts are up at the same time. In this case, without some very good offer why trade a known entity, where if you trade him, you pick up some other "meh" goalie in FA? Might as well keep him at this point.

Amazing that that is the situation we are in considering that Re-Whatever 1.0 just "completed".

I get that you are saying that Army has left the team thin. To diverge from that see my comments following your in blue (this time not sarcasm just my 5 cents - ya know inflation).

[a smell of green grass]

Anybody see a recurring issue?

- We can't trade Faulk because we have no young backfill top 4 RHD.
Faulk will be "maturing out" before the Blues become ultra-competitive again, so our prospects will have to eventually fill that void. In the meantime, the D will likely suck w/o him there. But he could possibly get a decent return. In this case gotta think about the future and not next year
- We can't trade Thomas because we have no young backfill 1C.
To me it is more important to keep strong down the center and build on that. Trading your young cost-controlled 1C would be a bad idea. You can still build around him and have a future, unlike Faulk IMO
- Hofer better not go down, because Binner is a disaster behind our defense, and we have no young backfill Goalie.
Losing players via waiver happens, and was Ellis the future? A goalie doesn't command much in a trade, and especially one having a notoriously bad year. Hofer and Binner's contracts are up at the same time. In this case, without some very good offer why trade a known entity, where if you trade him, you pick up some other "meh" goalie in FA? Might as well keep him at this point.

Amazing that that is the situation we are in considering that Re-Whatever 1.0 just "completed".

I get that you are saying that Army has left the team thin. To diverge from that see my comments following your in blue (this time not sarcasm just my 5 cents - ya know inflation).

I understand and agree with your other points. My point is exclusively that no matter what TRADE BAIT SELL PLAYER you look at, Army has no young immediate rostered player to step in for that player.

I hope that Army realizes that this is a very deep hole that we are in.