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rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:57 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

Absolutely on Hence. At this point, I have to question why they haven't. He could probably be a factor this year if they just made that switch. He just doesn't have the body to be a starter. I look at Hence, and I look at Cintje, and I think Jurrangelo has a starter's frame if not for height. He's not a beanpole. Hence is just all skin and bones.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 10:23 am What about Cijntje for 2027 ?
Don’t see him mentioned.

Not to start right out if 2027 ST camp but brought up later in 2027 joining rotation after a year and half in minors.

Youboughtit wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 10:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

The post was for 2027 because they will have 14 SP rule 5 eligible and cannot protect them al because of this off season. What is the plan?

Youboughtit wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 10:43 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

Except 14 of the pitchers in system are rule 5 eligible after this upcoming season. Cant add them all to 40 man

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:49 am

clemonsonroots wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:17 am I think, it should be an open competition in camp with only Libertore and Mcgreevy guaranteed a spot. Would like it to shake out like this:

1 Libby
2 Mcgreevy
3 May
4 Leahy
5 Dobbins

I think the OP was asking about next year, 2027. Is that what you envision in 2027?

clemonsonroots wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 11:23 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:49 am

clemonsonroots wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:17 am I think, it should be an open competition in camp with only Libertore and Mcgreevy guaranteed a spot. Would like it to shake out like this:

1 Libby
2 Mcgreevy
3 May
4 Leahy
5 Dobbins

I think the OP was asking about next year, 2027. Is that what you envision in 2027?

Oh, I see. Well, I would imagine at least 3-4 of those guys would still be in it. I would love for May to show what he used to have, but I won't hold my breath. Maybe...
1 Libertore
2 Doyle
3 Mcgreevy
4 Leahy
5 Dobbins
6 Matthews

They need to bring an ace in and the rotation would actually be good, but I would guess they will wait one more year and let these young guys play out and see what they need. 2028 is the earliest I see the ownership going in on a competitve team- if they haven't just made the decision to turn the franchise into a low spending, Rays type of structure. Also, we will see if we even have baseball next season.

Youboughtit wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 10:43 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

Except 14 of the pitchers in system are rule 5 eligible after this upcoming season. Cant add them all to 40 man

renostl wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 14:34 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 10:43 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:46 am

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:53 am

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:50 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026 08:42 am May
Libby
McG
Fitts
Leahy

Next up when ready...Dobbins & Mathews

I don't think we see Doyle until 2027.

Rock, I think they are talking about 2027 rotation. What do you envision that looking like a year from now?

My bad, thx for the heads up C4L!

Okay re-do:

Doyle
Libby
McG
Dobbins or Fitts or Leahy or "Q" battle it out for the last two spots.

That's what I think happens, best case scenario, of course. Though, if there's rhyme or reason to the particular order, I'm not sure I agree with it. I think:

Libby
McGreevy
Doyle
Dobbins
Leahy/Mathews

But, you know, po-tay-to, poh-tah-toh.

Hopefully those guys hit well enough (and we still have good talent coming up like Fajardo, Franklin, Cintje, etc) to make some of these guys expendable for a big bat or other pieces we might need.

For sure SJ

And you listed the next possible wave we should see sometime in 2028.

I'll also add T. Roby and B. Clarke both when healthy (but Clarke may end up being a huge pen's arm instead of a starter).

And of course I've been screaming now for a third season they convert T. Hence and prep him for the closers role!

Except 14 of the pitchers in system are rule 5 eligible after this upcoming season. Cant add them all to 40 man

14 sounds bigger than it will turn out being.
There will be a some of the current that will be moved. May, Stanek, Pallante, Jo Jo, Roycroft, Raquet, Pushard, etc. There will be at least a few new injuries and a couple the linger on from this season.