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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:29 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:26 pm Depends on who you are asking about. Im confident Bloom is serious about wanting to build the best roster he can. As for DeWitt, he hasn't been serious about winning for years. That is why the team is projected to win 70 games. That is why Johnny (dim bulb) was kept around for far too long.

DeWitt has focused on being cheap and squeezing every cent he can. He probably checks under every stadium seat for loose change after games.
This doesn't really relate to this post.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:33 pm
by JuanAgosto
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:29 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:26 pm Depends on who you are asking about. Im confident Bloom is serious about wanting to build the best roster he can. As for DeWitt, he hasn't been serious about winning for years. That is why the team is projected to win 70 games. That is why Johnny (dim bulb) was kept around for far too long.

DeWitt has focused on being cheap and squeezing every cent he can. He probably checks under every stadium seat for loose change after games.
This doesn't really relate to this post.
Sure it does. Question was about adding a RH bat. I said Bloom would probably like to but Dewitt is too cheap .

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
by Melville
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:37 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:29 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:26 pm Depends on who you are asking about. Im confident Bloom is serious about wanting to build the best roster he can. As for DeWitt, he hasn't been serious about winning for years. That is why the team is projected to win 70 games. That is why Johnny (dim bulb) was kept around for far too long.

DeWitt has focused on being cheap and squeezing every cent he can. He probably checks under every stadium seat for loose change after games.
This doesn't really relate to this post.
Sure it does. Question was about adding a RH bat. I said Bloom would probably like to but Dewitt is too cheap .
Bloom isn't out there talking about it publicly if it isn't going to be allowed. If that were the case, he would just talk about something else.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:37 pm
by brock118
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
They will only get someone that is young and inexpensive. They've been cutting payroll on their transactions. I wouldn't expect any major hitter coming to us.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:39 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
brock118 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
They will only get someone that is young and inexpensive. They've been cutting payroll on their transactions. I wouldn't expect any major hitter coming to us.
Both of these hitters are pre-arb and have 5 years of team control left.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:43 pm
by Cardinals4Life
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:21 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:14 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:57 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
Tink, yes. Mathews, no.
Not being critical, I'm seriously interested in your thought process- why not Mathews?
I believe Mathews is going to be a very good MLB starter. I am not trading that away, when he is right on the cusp of arriving.

Tink, on the other hand, has shown a propensity to be on the IL. Though his pure stuff is better, I don't know if he will ever make it to The Show as a starter, let alone even as a reliever.
Aren't we going to have to trade someone with some sort of big league ceiling to get the potential ceiling we think Mayo could have? They won't be holding a fire sale, right?
Pallante? Their values seem close. Maybe Pallante plus a younger minor leaguer?

I'd even go Pallante/Romero, because I really believe in Mayo.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:47 pm
by rage-STL
I think Velazquez and Ramos are the RH bats to go along with Fermin and Saggese. Baez should arrive by ‘27, Honeymann soon after that. Jordan Walker finding traction and becoming a legitimate contributor changes the outlook for this team in a big way.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:49 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:43 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:21 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:14 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:01 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:57 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
Tink, yes. Mathews, no.
Not being critical, I'm seriously interested in your thought process- why not Mathews?
I believe Mathews is going to be a very good MLB starter. I am not trading that away, when he is right on the cusp of arriving.

Tink, on the other hand, has shown a propensity to be on the IL. Though his pure stuff is better, I don't know if he will ever make it to The Show as a starter, let alone even as a reliever.
Aren't we going to have to trade someone with some sort of big league ceiling to get the potential ceiling we think Mayo could have? They won't be holding a fire sale, right?
Pallante? Their values seem close. Maybe Pallante plus a younger minor leaguer?

I'd even go Pallante/Romero, because I really believe in Mayo.
That makes some sense. They are both ML ready. Romero for only one year, but some years of control for Pallante. Pallante may not be all they ever dreamed of, but if you look at Mayo's line for the past 2 seasons- that leaves something to be desired as well. If you send Andre for Coby, you're going to have to find someone else to send for Colby.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:52 pm
by Melville
ramfandan wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:20 pm No reason to think Bloom is not serious about Righty Bat.
Everything else he has said since taking over has come to fruition..
Trading Gray, getting Contreras to waive NTC trading him, Arenado And Donovan.
My guess he had been working the phone on some righty bat
Remember it takes two to tango. Someone must want what you wish to trade.
As with Donovan, patience. camp just starting forMLB teams.
Actually, facts suggest Bloom has not been at all serious about acquiring a RH bat up to this point - and therefore probably is not now either.
After all, he traded the best RH bat on the roster (Contreras), and Gray, and Donovan - and made zero effort to ensure a solid RH outfield bat was part of the return.
As I have analyzed and explained with perfect insight previously, his actions make his thinking ridiculously obvious.
Going into 2026, he is desperately hoping for Walker to make an unexpected jump forward and is also wanting to see if Baez can force himself into the conversation during ST which would allow for a potential promotion in June of July - while leaving reps potentially available for Herrera once the pitching staff ejects him from behind the plate for the 3rd consecutive season.
Like it or not, those are the RH outfield bats Bloom is betting on for now.
Could add a piece 5 or 6 weeks from now if he does not like what he is seeing.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 15:53 pm
by renostl
brock118 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
They will only get someone that is young and inexpensive. They've been cutting payroll on their transactions. I wouldn't expect any major hitter coming to us.
The economics of baseball makes this true 100% of the time.
Young is cheaper than vets who have produced 100% of the time. It is why when
moving vets can look like a tank, when that may or may not be true.

The Cardinals should be VERY much in the market to fill a position of need. Any player
that projects more upside than they currently have should be on the radar. It also
would not hurt to move on from a player that may be redundant with another on this roster.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
by Melville
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 16:02 pm
by Cardinals4Life
rage-STL wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:47 pm I think Velazquez and Ramos are the RH bats to go along with Fermin and Saggese. Baez should arrive by ‘27, Honeymann soon after that. Jordan Walker finding traction and becoming a legitimate contributor changes the outlook for this team in a big way.
I don't think they can carry all of Ramos, Saggese, Fermin, and Velazquez, can they?

1.) Winn (R)
2.) Wetherholt (L)
3.) Gorman (L)
4.) Scott II (L)
5.) Walker (R)
6.) Herrera (R)
7.) Crooks (L)/Pages (R)
8.) Burleson (L)
9.) Church (L)
10.) Saggese (R)
11.) Fermin (R)
12.) Ramos (R)
13.) Velasquez (R)

Well, after listing them, maybe they can.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
by Cardinals4Life
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.

Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

Posted: 15 Feb 2026 16:10 pm
by Carp4Cy
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:22 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
I've wanted Coby Mayo for a while now. Where does he play then? 3B? Moving Gorman to DH. 1B? Moving Burly to OF or DH.
I guess any of that is on the table. He plays 3B/1B. He could platoon with Gorman. He could play 1B and send Burleson to LF until Noot gets back, or he still has one more option left. You could send him to Memphis and let the development people work with him, give Gorman a full chance to sink or swim with a real option if he fails, and keep Burleson at 1B. I guess if you really liked Gorman and Mayo by mid-summer, you may start wondering what you could get for Burleson.
If Mayo is an upgrade to what we have, it doesn’t matter who he displaces. We need to get talent in here.