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45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:18 pm

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

It has damaged the fans…

I urge you to review the average ticket prices for those leagues compared to mlb

Perhaps you want to pay 200 for an mlb average ticket…

The real problem is the arbitration process…

So team A is poorly run…a very weak organization…but because they have a floor to meet, they give a weak player …a shortstop 25 million…

Jeremy Peña goes to arbitration…..the first thing his agent says is….”hey, that bum in A is getting 25 million….of course my guy is worth 40”

On the other hand they have to spend the money so maybe they spend it on a better player? There definitely should be a floor. Maybe a ceiling tied to revenue and inflation. But ALL the revenue not just the revenue that the owners tell you about.

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

3dender wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:37 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:18 pm

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

It has damaged the fans…

I urge you to review the average ticket prices for those leagues compared to mlb

Perhaps you want to pay 200 for an mlb average ticket…

The real problem is the arbitration process…

So team A is poorly run…a very weak organization…but because they have a floor to meet, they give a weak player …a shortstop 25 million…

Jeremy Peña goes to arbitration…..the first thing his agent says is….”hey, that bum in A is getting 25 million….of course my guy is worth 40”

Ticket price inflation has nothing to do with higher player salaries, it's just price gouging.

You should google “supply and demand”. The concept might just blow your mind.

General wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:19 am

3dender wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:37 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:18 pm

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

It has damaged the fans…

I urge you to review the average ticket prices for those leagues compared to mlb

Perhaps you want to pay 200 for an mlb average ticket…

The real problem is the arbitration process…

So team A is poorly run…a very weak organization…but because they have a floor to meet, they give a weak player …a shortstop 25 million…

Jeremy Peña goes to arbitration…..the first thing his agent says is….”hey, that bum in A is getting 25 million….of course my guy is worth 40”

Ticket price inflation has nothing to do with higher player salaries, it's just price gouging.

You should google “supply and demand”. The concept might just blow your mind.

Have you ever taken an economics class?

Do you know how many of the 4 premises of classical economics are actually reflected in reality?

Do you know what monopoly economics does to normal supply and demand curves?

Do you think maybe you're the one who needs to Google a little?

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:29 pm What needs to happen and What eventually will happen is normalization of rookie, contract values, and a much quicker path of free agency like the other leagues have. There should be a much smaller gap between what young players make and the market price for their contribution. This concept of control is going to go away as we know it

Which would means the build your team from the farm plan goes out the window cause you cant keep them very long at all below player skill open market cost?

Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 14:01 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:29 pm What needs to happen and What eventually will happen is normalization of rookie, contract values, and a much quicker path of free agency like the other leagues have. There should be a much smaller gap between what young players make and the market price for their contribution. This concept of control is going to go away as we know it

Which would means the build your team from the farm plan goes out the window cause you cant keep them very long at all below player skill open market cost?

Exactly. The tanking to maybe someday win yin yang will soon be obsolete.

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:53 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

TV ratings for the playoffs were up 28% last year. Its not the Dodgers fault billionaires won't spend money on their teams. I don't believe in corporate welfare and a salary cap is corporate welfare.

3dender wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 08:22 am

General wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:19 am

3dender wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:37 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 20:18 pm

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

It has damaged the fans…

I urge you to review the average ticket prices for those leagues compared to mlb

Perhaps you want to pay 200 for an mlb average ticket…

The real problem is the arbitration process…

So team A is poorly run…a very weak organization…but because they have a floor to meet, they give a weak player …a shortstop 25 million…

Jeremy Peña goes to arbitration…..the first thing his agent says is….”hey, that bum in A is getting 25 million….of course my guy is worth 40”

Ticket price inflation has nothing to do with higher player salaries, it's just price gouging.

You should google “supply and demand”. The concept might just blow your mind.

Have you ever taken an economics class?

Do you know how many of the 4 premises of classical economics are actually reflected in reality?

Do you know what monopoly economics does to normal supply and demand curves?

Do you think maybe you're the one who needs to Google a little?

I know all about it and understand it very well. The Cardinals don't have any kind of monopoly of individual's entertainment dollars and certainly don't "price gauge", which is laughable. They compete with the Blues, the Symphony, concerts, and all kind of other entertainment options so they have to price their product to compete in the marketplace.

The prices they set are what they think they can get for their product. If they are correct, they sell a lot of tickets and maybe increase prices more as demand exceeds supply. If they are incorrect, they have to lower prices, discount, offer incentives, or otherwise lower the net price for admittance to get an acceptable (to them) level of attendance.

If they still can't get the attendance they want (or need), they have to reduce costs to maintain profitability.

To say they are "price gauging" is lazy and ignorant at best.

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:56 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:53 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

TV ratings for the playoffs were up 28% last year. Its not the Dodgers fault billionaires won't spend money on their teams. I don't believe in corporate welfare and a salary cap is corporate welfare.

Welfare come from tax payers via the government. Billionaires sharing their profits with other, less profitable billionaires is....something, but it isn't welfare.

Get rid of the draft. Stop rewarding bad teams. If owners want to get into this game then it should be as a dck measuring contest, not a side hobby.

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:56 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:53 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

TV ratings for the playoffs were up 28% last year. Its not the Dodgers fault billionaires won't spend money on their teams. I don't believe in corporate welfare and a salary cap is corporate welfare.

Not good for the long term health of the sport. If nothing changes in the next 5 years and the Dodgers just keep winning title after title, will viewership still increase? Will fans in over half the markets even care about their teams any more?

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 18:21 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:56 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:53 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

TV ratings for the playoffs were up 28% last year. Its not the Dodgers fault billionaires won't spend money on their teams. I don't believe in corporate welfare and a salary cap is corporate welfare.

Not good for the long term health of the sport. If nothing changes in the next 5 years and the Dodgers just keep winning title after title, will viewership still increase? Will fans in over half the markets even care about their teams any more?

You mean like the Yankees did in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and 90’s? It’s a wonder baseball ever survived.

Red7 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 18:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 18:21 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:56 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 15:53 pm

alw80 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:28 pm

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:09 am

Absolut wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 07:04 am

3-2 Fastball wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:59 pm

45s wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 19:44 pm It would be inflationary….

bad players being paid more than they worth ..

NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary floors. Has a floor negatively affected those leagues?

They also have caps

Yep. A floor with no cap makes zero sense and won't help the current issue of the super team.

Super teams are good for sports.

Not when over half the league has zero chance to win.

Sure, the Chiefs are good for the NFL, but:
#1 - they are a small market team, so their situation could never happen under the current MLB model
#2 - all other NFL team fans know they at least have a chance if they build a team smartly (and under the same rules as every other NFL team) to have that dynasty. All fans of small market teams in MLB know is that their stars will bolt for LA or NY as soon as they can become free agents. This does not happen in the NFL.

TV ratings for the playoffs were up 28% last year. Its not the Dodgers fault billionaires won't spend money on their teams. I don't believe in corporate welfare and a salary cap is corporate welfare.

Not good for the long term health of the sport. If nothing changes in the next 5 years and the Dodgers just keep winning title after title, will viewership still increase? Will fans in over half the markets even care about their teams any more?

You mean like the Yankees did in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and 90’s? It’s a wonder baseball ever survived.

The world is a very different place in 2026. Many more options for the entertainment dollar. It's cool that you want to kill off small market teams. You are entitled to your opinion. Changes will be made though. Deal with it.