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hugeCardfan wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:05 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:00 pm

82birds wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 13:56 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 13:51 pm This seems like an odd trade to me.
Thought Granillo had a lot of potential. Soriano's numbers don't look that spectacular.

Anyone see what we are missing here?

young guy with potential for older guy (a few years) whose #s last year were poor.
agree, head scratching trade but there's no doubt stuff we don't know.
I bet the Cards like the strike out per inning.

Granillo averaged 12.2 K/9 in the minors.
He is younger. Has experience closing.

I don't get this at all.

I don't either. Clearly something obscure....

I just read Goold's article on the PD hoping there was something additional.
nope, straight one for one swap.

For some reason, and maybe we'll find out eventually, the Cardinals didn't seem too impressed with Granillo. My assumption is his "stuff" wasn't impressive enough for them, and they didn't see his profile translating to success at the MLB level. Or, it's something else completely, lol, who knows. I personally was excited for Granillo, having followed his successful progression through the minors, but I could tell the club was not too high on him. Well, hopefully this gets Granillo the chance he deserves at the MLB level. I guess we get to see if he's any good with the National's instead. ;(

I just viewed his 2025 MLB Highlight video on youtube.
Good looking swing and miss stuff.

but, of course.........
highlight videos show the strikeouts but not the walks, hits, homers, etc.

82birds wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:14 pm I just viewed his 2025 MLB Highlight video on youtube.
Good looking swing and miss stuff.

but, of course.........
highlight videos show the strikeouts but not the walks, hits, homers, etc.

Biggest issue for him has always been whether he can consistently throw the slider and changeup for strikes. When he does, he’s pretty good; when he doesn’t, he walks everyone in the ballpark and hitters can sit on his below-average (for a high-leverage reliever) FB.

Soriano has no minor league options left, so, it's big club or back to the waiver wire. Interesting. They better fix him fast, lol!

earp wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:08 pm Soriano will hopefully find some certainty after a hectic offseason. This is the fourth time he has changed organizations since November. The 26-year-old had spent his entire career with the Marlins until they placed him on waivers at the beginning of the offseason. He landed with Baltimore, Atlanta and Washington via successive designations and waiver claims.

Think this guy will fit right in.

a hot commodity!

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

Granillo did have a 4.71 ERA/1.38 WHiP/7.7 SO9................last guy in the pen' type reliever.

He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:32 pm

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

Granillo did have a 4.71 ERA/1.38 WHiP/7.7 SO9................last guy in the pen' type reliever.

He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

is our new guy a higher meh guy (potentially)?
Chaim obviously thinks so.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:32 pm

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

Granillo did have a 4.71 ERA/1.38 WHiP/7.7 SO9................last guy in the pen' type reliever.

He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

Rock, that's lazy stat grabbing my friend.

Granillo only pitched in like 14 games and like 21 innings. Hard to use those stats to judge the guy.

Look at Granillo's minor league #'s. 12.2 K/9, which is more than the guy we got. Plus Granillo has closed before and has late inning experience in the minors.
Seems like he was on the uptick.

Disappointed in this trade, at least on its face.

82birds wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:38 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:32 pm

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

Granillo did have a 4.71 ERA/1.38 WHiP/7.7 SO9................last guy in the pen' type reliever.

He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

is our new guy a higher meh guy (potentially)?
Chaim obviously thinks so.

The theme (and it's a good one) has been to add as many power arms as possible to the system...........hopefully smoothing out the wrinkles (re: control or lack of a secondary pitch) w/the new system & instructors he's brought into the system.

I love it birds'.

We've lacked power pitchers for too long, Granillo didn't fit the profile.

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:39 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:32 pm

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

Granillo did have a 4.71 ERA/1.38 WHiP/7.7 SO9................last guy in the pen' type reliever.

He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

Rock, that's lazy stat grabbing my friend.

Granillo only pitched in like 14 games and like 21 innings. Hard to use those stats to judge the guy.

Look at Granillo's minor league #'s. 12.2 K/9, which is more than the guy we got. Plus Granillo has closed before and has late inning experience in the minors.
Seems like he was on the uptick.

Disappointed in this trade, at least on its face.

Minor league stats are meaningless if they don't translate to MLB, lazy on your part to site them my friend.

He's a "meh", back of the bench reliever who had his cup of coffee who wasn't going to make the Cardinals opening day roster.

Soriano could be the same guy but he does have better MLB strikeout potential and that's what Bloom is going for, power pitching.

They must be fairly confident they can fix his issues and make him a good pitcher. One things for sure it’s going to be a test of their development system. It looks questionable now it could end up looking like a dumb trade or a genius trade Or a nothing trade if both suck

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:32 pm He's another "meh", so it's a "meh" for another "meh" trade.

Yeah, that's basically my thought. I don't think our guy had much future, who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I doubt this guy has much future either, but Bloom and his guys maybe see something there, so I don't see the harm.

from the expanded MLBTR article on Soriano:




The biggest issue is that he has been very homer-prone, surrendering 1.75 longballs per nine innings.

Maybe Busch III will help with that.

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 14:09 pm Granillo-heads coming out of the woodwork!!

You know the offseason is long in the tooth when fans are agonizing over the loss of a guy like Granillo.

Granillo was going to have a tough time making this team. Doubtful that he would. Soriano might not either. It’s just a middle reliever for a middle reliever with both being long shots.

Maybe the Cardinals see something there that they think they can work with but like someone else said, it’s just a meh transaction.