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Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 21:40 pm
by CCard
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:22 pm
Whatashame wrote: 07 Feb 2026 20:35 pm Why do we struggle with rules. If you are playing for an organization, working for an organization, belong to an organization why is it a problem participating under the rules they set up.

I have no problem with an organization setting rules and if I want to be a part of that organization, I follow the rules they set up. I always have the choice to not join that organization if I don’t want to follow the rules they set up. This seems pretty basic to me.
A big plus +1 I smoked marijuana pretty much daily in college when I graduated and was commissioned into the army i immediately stopped and haven’t smoked since then because the army and the job I’ve had since getting out of the army don’t allow it. Once I retire I will get a medical card and start back. He knew he can’t smoke it and participate in the WBC and chose to anyway that’s his dumb choice
Hmmm...this explains a lot. :lol: Just joking. It's a stupid rule in this day and age. People can drink themselves to death, smoke and get cancer but they can't smoke a joint. Alas, some parts of the world they might execute you if your caught with or doing drugs. Supposedly we're more enlightened.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
by Melville
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 21:43 pm
by Melville
CCard wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:40 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:22 pm
Whatashame wrote: 07 Feb 2026 20:35 pm Why do we struggle with rules. If you are playing for an organization, working for an organization, belong to an organization why is it a problem participating under the rules they set up.

I have no problem with an organization setting rules and if I want to be a part of that organization, I follow the rules they set up. I always have the choice to not join that organization if I don’t want to follow the rules they set up. This seems pretty basic to me.
A big plus +1 I smoked marijuana pretty much daily in college when I graduated and was commissioned into the army i immediately stopped and haven’t smoked since then because the army and the job I’ve had since getting out of the army don’t allow it. Once I retire I will get a medical card and start back. He knew he can’t smoke it and participate in the WBC and chose to anyway that’s his dumb choice
Hmmm...this explains a lot. :lol: Just joking. It's a stupid rule in this day and age. People can drink themselves to death, smoke and get cancer but they can't smoke a joint. Alas, some parts of the world they might execute you if your caught with or doing drugs. Supposedly we're more enlightened.
Less enlightened as a society than any time in history - and that includes baseball.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 21:47 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
:lol:
Yes, it’s ruined my life.
I have lived an honorable and an entirely productive life , Melville. I started the careers of hundreds of people, and I still run three organizations. I’m 72 years old and I’ve been smoking cannabis over 50 of those years.
I am a living refutation of your statement.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 22:00 pm
by Carp4Cy
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
I know more people who were messed up by legally prescribed opioids than by pot.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 22:07 pm
by RamFan08NY
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
I have heard far , far more stories about alcohol being destructive, than I have marijanna. In fact, i know people who are now able to carry on a normal life because cannibas gummies eases their arthritis to the point that they can finally resume normal, day to day activities.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 22:18 pm
by Melville
Carp4Cy wrote: 07 Feb 2026 22:00 pm
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
I know more people who were messed up by legally prescribed opioids than by pot.
I agree opioids are dangerous - and certainly could ruin an MLB career.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 22:20 pm
by Melville
RamFan08NY wrote: 07 Feb 2026 22:07 pm
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
I have heard far , far more stories about alcohol being destructive, than I have marijanna. In fact, i know people who are now able to carry on a normal life because cannibas gummies eases their arthritis to the point that they can finally resume normal, day to day activities.
I agree alcohol can be dangerous - and if my memory is correct David Green is one player who had his MLB career shortened by it.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 22:53 pm
by Ozziesfan41
CCard wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:40 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:22 pm
Whatashame wrote: 07 Feb 2026 20:35 pm Why do we struggle with rules. If you are playing for an organization, working for an organization, belong to an organization why is it a problem participating under the rules they set up.

I have no problem with an organization setting rules and if I want to be a part of that organization, I follow the rules they set up. I always have the choice to not join that organization if I don’t want to follow the rules they set up. This seems pretty basic to me.
A big plus +1 I smoked marijuana pretty much daily in college when I graduated and was commissioned into the army i immediately stopped and haven’t smoked since then because the army and the job I’ve had since getting out of the army don’t allow it. Once I retire I will get a medical card and start back. He knew he can’t smoke it and participate in the WBC and chose to anyway that’s his dumb choice
Hmmm...this explains a lot. :lol: Just joking. It's a stupid rule in this day and age. People can drink themselves to death, smoke and get cancer but they can't smoke a joint. Alas, some parts of the world they might execute you if your caught with or doing drugs. Supposedly we're more enlightened.
lol you might be right about that and you’re singing to the choir here. It’s a stupid rule I don’t know why they can smoke it in MLB and get away with it but in WBC they get suspended it’s dumb I don’t agree with it. But the rules are the rules they know the rules going in follow the rules or face the consequences

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 05:39 am
by OldRed
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:47 pm
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:42 pm
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 19:53 pm In this day and age, this is a dumb rule. And I will add I'm 80 years old.
It is a wise rule on all days and in all ages.
Recreational pot is destructive in all contexts.
Even baseball.
:lol:
Yes, it’s ruined my life.
I have lived an honorable and an entirely productive life , Melville. I started the careers of hundreds of people, and I still run three organizations. I’m 72 years old and I’ve been smoking cannabis over 50 of those years.
I am a living refutation of your statement.
What about the NBA & NFL? Has it ruined those two sports?

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 06:40 am
by nighthawk
A 33 year old ballplayer with a .267 OBA over his past four MLB seasons? Probably a blessing.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 07:13 am
by ggnoobs
"MLB has permitted the use of marijuana since the 2020 season, which means that Baez did not break any of the league’s rules and will not face any discipline from them."

Huh. I did not know this. Maybe that's why offense is so far down in the league, all the hitters are stoned lol.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 07:21 am
by CCard
Melville wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:43 pm
CCard wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:40 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 21:22 pm
Whatashame wrote: 07 Feb 2026 20:35 pm Why do we struggle with rules. If you are playing for an organization, working for an organization, belong to an organization why is it a problem participating under the rules they set up.

I have no problem with an organization setting rules and if I want to be a part of that organization, I follow the rules they set up. I always have the choice to not join that organization if I don’t want to follow the rules they set up. This seems pretty basic to me.
A big plus +1 I smoked marijuana pretty much daily in college when I graduated and was commissioned into the army i immediately stopped and haven’t smoked since then because the army and the job I’ve had since getting out of the army don’t allow it. Once I retire I will get a medical card and start back. He knew he can’t smoke it and participate in the WBC and chose to anyway that’s his dumb choice
Hmmm...this explains a lot. :lol: Just joking. It's a stupid rule in this day and age. People can drink themselves to death, smoke and get cancer but they can't smoke a joint. Alas, some parts of the world they might execute you if your caught with or doing drugs. Supposedly we're more enlightened.
Less enlightened as a society than any time in history - and that includes baseball.
And with attacks on the enlightened to boot. It always seems to be a race to the bottom.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 07:28 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Cannabis. Alcohol. Behavior drugs - pills.

Let me ask the board- if your kid is going out every night or weekend, and they partake in a substance, what one would you encourage- IF you must choose.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 07:29 am
by OldRed
In this case, Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association worked together to explore whether Báez could be cleared for the WBC, but those efforts were unsuccessful. MLB has permitted marijuana use since the 2020 season under its jointly negotiated drug policy with the MLBPA, but the World Baseball Softball Confederation – which governs the WBC's drug rules – still prohibits it.

Re: Javier Baez out of WBC for cannabis

Posted: 08 Feb 2026 07:32 am
by sikeston bulldog2
OldRed wrote: 08 Feb 2026 07:29 am In this case, Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association worked together to explore whether Báez could be cleared for the WBC, but those efforts were unsuccessful. MLB has permitted marijuana use since the 2020 season under its jointly negotiated drug policy with the MLBPA, but the World Baseball Softball Confederation – which governs the WBC's drug rules – still prohibits it.
Heres a thought. How many others did quit for 30 days just to comply. Seems the potential users may be high.