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Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 04 Feb 2026 23:24 pm
by RamFan08NY
redbirdfan51 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:00 pm None of the RH hitting FA OF really do not move the needle. Fermin should be given the first shot as the RH bat in the OF. Cards can always make a move later. Maybe Josh Baez will surprise or Herrera shifts to the OF.
Agree. If the player doesn't move the needle more than the in-house option. Give the in-house some ABs. Might strike lightning.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 04 Feb 2026 23:46 pm
by juan good eye
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:19 pm
Cardly wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:50 pm Andujar just signed with the Padres. Skip out on signing Randall Grichuk. He is not a good hitter. Please add a bat but make it a real one.
As long as we sign some pieces by 2027 I’m good with that.
Pieces for what?

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 00:16 am
by Cardinals1964
juan good eye wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:19 pm
Cardly wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:50 pm Andujar just signed with the Padres. Skip out on signing Randall Grichuk. He is not a good hitter. Please add a bat but make it a real one.
As long as we sign some pieces by 2027 I’m good with that.
Pieces for what?
What we find out we are missing in 2026.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 00:25 am
by Cardinals1964
RamFan08NY wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:22 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:04 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
Or maybe they did, but the player decided that he preferred the situation to the Cardinals.
Cards offer him 5 mil, he signs in a heart beat, but nice try!
Or, his agent goes back to the Pads and says you need to up it to 5, or he signs with Stl.
Let's face it. None of us know how the discussions go. We only pretend that we do.
Agreed. But everyone knows Grichuk, Andujar and Donovan don’t change the outcome in 2026.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 01:12 am
by Whatashame
The Cardinals have needed a RH hitting OFer for a while now. They have Nootbaar as a LH hitter and we don’t really know when he will be available. They could bring in Grichuk on a platoon bases to play LF but maybe they are counting on Baez to help out sooner than later. He was productive last year in AA. It’s not that far of a jump from productive AA player to the big leagues.

Maybe they start him in AAA to start the year or maybe Baez has a big spring and the Cardinals decide LF at Busch Stadium is a good spot for him. ST hasn’t started yet. If Baez starts strong then why not have him hitting in the middle of the order and playing LF. I think it’s at least a possibility.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 03:07 am
by Cardinals1964
Whatashame wrote: 05 Feb 2026 01:12 am The Cardinals have needed a RH hitting OFer for a while now. They have Nootbaar as a LH hitter and we don’t really know when he will be available. They could bring in Grichuk on a platoon bases to play LF but maybe they are counting on Baez to help out sooner than later. He was productive last year in AA. It’s not that far of a jump from productive AA player to the big leagues.

Maybe they start him in AAA to start the year or maybe Baez has a big spring and the Cardinals decide LF at Busch Stadium is a good spot for him. ST hasn’t started yet. If Baez starts strong then why not have him hitting in the middle of the order and playing LF. I think it’s at least a possibility.
Grichuk has the most power Mo ever seen. I’d rather see a nobody play than a never was. Maybe, just maybe nobody really cares about LF. They could get Barry Bonds in his prime and left field and it wouldn’t change the season. How long is it gonna take for people to realize that?

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 05:09 am
by Jobu's Rum
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 05:53 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Jobu's Rum wrote: 05 Feb 2026 05:09 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
I get the cheapness, but no need to sign anyone at this point. I mentioned trading for RH OF Thomas from the As since they are so light at C.
Trades are the way for now
I think it says they are going bottom up and rebuild. No more updating the old building. Complete new construction. Brand new key.

Once established we should attain the goals that both parties here have wanted.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 07:28 am
by Ronnie Dobbs
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:04 pmCards offer him 5 mil, he signs in a heart beat, but nice try!
Maybe not. The Padres also have $2 million in incentives. It was reported that he had a robust market. It looks like he had his pick of teams and the Padres was the best fit for him.

I used to have this argument back in the day when people complained about not getting a better backup for Yadi. These bench players players want an opportunity to get the most ABs they can so that they can showcase themselves for a bigger deal. What backup catcher is going to want to compete for playing time with Yadi Molina, maybe the last ironman catcher we'll see? Not going to happen. What opportunity would Andujar have here? He knows this is a rebuild year. Are we going to give him playing time over Nootbaar or Walker at the corners? Gorman at 3rd? Burleson/Hererra at 1B/DH? I'd think that Thomas Saggese is going to get more opportunities than Andujar to come off the bench in those roles. Even Jose Fermin. Would Cardinals fans really want to see Andujar getting opportunites over any of those guys? Doesn't make sense to me. So why would Andujar want to deal with that? As the Padres compete, they are going to want their RH platoon bat getting in games more often. The Cardinals aren't competing this year. They want to evaluate these young players. And Andujar is running out of years before he has a chance at a relatively big deal for a guy like him.

Either way. Are the Cardinals in 2026 really going to get into a bidding war for a 31 year old with an extensive history of getting injured coming off his best year (playing in the Cincinnati band box)?

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 07:33 am
by Adam2
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:23 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:21 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:04 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
Or maybe they did, but the player decided that he preferred the situation to the Cardinals.
Cards offer him 5 mil, he signs in a heart beat, but nice try!
Why sign him for $5 million. You don’t think we have any one that can hit 10 home runs in left field?
Do we?
It's sad that "Do We" is a legitimate question and not a joke

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:48 am
by rockondlouie
Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 09:59 am
by dugoutrex
Cardinals1964 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 00:16 am
juan good eye wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:19 pm
Cardly wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:50 pm Andujar just signed with the Padres. Skip out on signing Randall Grichuk. He is not a good hitter. Please add a bat but make it a real one.
As long as we sign some pieces by 2027 I’m good with that.
Pieces for what?
What we find out we are missing in 2026.
dang - we going to need a whole new puzzle not just a couple pieces!

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 12:18 pm
by 11WSChamps
Adam2 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 07:33 am
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:23 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:21 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:04 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
Or maybe they did, but the player decided that he preferred the situation to the Cardinals.
Cards offer him 5 mil, he signs in a heart beat, but nice try!
Why sign him for $5 million. You don’t think we have any one that can hit 10 home runs in left field?
Do we?
It's sad that "Do We" is a legitimate question and not a joke
Yeah I haven't seen anyone here come up with one yet.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 13:54 pm
by Cardinals1964
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 12:18 pm
Adam2 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 07:33 am
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:23 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:21 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:04 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 20:58 pm I’m glad Bloom didn’t sign Andujar after trading away Donovan, but my goodness, he signed for 4 mil. That should really tell everyone on here something, if they weren’t even willing to spend that amount!
Or maybe they did, but the player decided that he preferred the situation to the Cardinals.
Cards offer him 5 mil, he signs in a heart beat, but nice try!
Why sign him for $5 million. You don’t think we have any one that can hit 10 home runs in left field?
Do we?
It's sad that "Do We" is a legitimate question and not a joke
Yeah I haven't seen anyone here come up with one yet.
Nootbar will hit 10. I think.

Re: Skip adding Grichuk Enough .210 hitters already.

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 15:43 pm
by Ozziesfan41
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:48 am Hopefully C. Bloom now shifts to seeking that RHHing OF via the trade route using JoJo + (Noot, maybe a catcher?).
That’s what I’m hoping he does because if it comes to Pham and grichuk just use valezquez instead he sucks but he does have more power