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Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 08:56 am
by 11WSChamps
I hate what they've done.

What they're doing now is immaterial.

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am
by ScotchMIrish
I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 08:59 am
by earp
“I’ll tell ya what, folks… this bullpen’s givin’ me more gray hair than a doubleheader in August. I mean, good gracious, partner — you hand these fellas a three‑run lead and they treat it like it’s a hot potato. BOOM — walk, walk, double, and suddenly I’m lookin’ for the antacids.

You can’t be doin’ that! Not in THIS ballpark, not in THIS town. These Cardinal fans know their baseball. They’ve seen Gibson, they’ve seen Sutter, they’ve seen Izzy slam the door like he was lockin’ up the family hardware store. And now we got fellas out there pitchin’ like they’re tryin’ to win a raffle instead of a ballgame.

I’m tellin’ ya, if they don’t start throwin’ strikes, I’m gonna march down there myself and show ’em how to do it. And I haven’t thrown a baseball since the Reagan administration. But I guarantee ya I’d at least hit the strike zone!

Mercy! This bullpen’s gonna put me in early retirement — and I’m already retired!”---------? WHO ?

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 09:07 am
by 45s
What they were doing wasn’t working…

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 09:11 am
by ramfandan
earp wrote: 10 Feb 2026 08:59 am “I’ll tell ya what, folks… this bullpen’s givin’ me more gray hair than a doubleheader in August. I mean, good gracious, partner — you hand these fellas a three‑run lead and they treat it like it’s a hot potato. BOOM — walk, walk, double, and suddenly I’m lookin’ for the antacids.

You can’t be doin’ that! Not in THIS ballpark, not in THIS town. These Cardinal fans know their baseball. They’ve seen Gibson, they’ve seen Sutter, they’ve seen Izzy slam the door like he was lockin’ up the family hardware store. And now we got fellas out there pitchin’ like they’re tryin’ to win a raffle instead of a ballgame.

I’m tellin’ ya, if they don’t start throwin’ strikes, I’m gonna march down there myself and show ’em how to do it. And I haven’t thrown a baseball since the Reagan administration. But I guarantee ya I’d at least hit the strike zone!

Mercy! This bullpen’s gonna put me in early retirement — and I’m already retired!”---------? WHO ?
Would pay money to see you come out of the pen ! Like your passion and that's what the fans want . Yes, hit the strike zone pitch after pitch ..right down the gut .. no balls only strikes ! What is your velo ? Don't care if they crush 5 homers in a row off your strikes, we just want to see a strike thrower for a change. None of these lame walks .

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 09:27 am
by bccardsfan
earp wrote: 10 Feb 2026 08:59 am “I’ll tell ya what, folks… this bullpen’s givin’ me more gray hair than a doubleheader in August. I mean, good gracious, partner — you hand these fellas a three‑run lead and they treat it like it’s a hot potato. BOOM — walk, walk, double, and suddenly I’m lookin’ for the antacids.

You can’t be doin’ that! Not in THIS ballpark, not in THIS town. These Cardinal fans know their baseball. They’ve seen Gibson, they’ve seen Sutter, they’ve seen Izzy slam the door like he was lockin’ up the family hardware store. And now we got fellas out there pitchin’ like they’re tryin’ to win a raffle instead of a ballgame.

I’m tellin’ ya, if they don’t start throwin’ strikes, I’m gonna march down there myself and show ’em how to do it. And I haven’t thrown a baseball since the Reagan administration. But I guarantee ya I’d at least hit the strike zone!

Mercy! This bullpen’s gonna put me in early retirement — and I’m already retired!”---------? WHO ?
Sounds like Whitey to me:)

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 09:44 am
by bccardsfan
bccardsfan wrote: 10 Feb 2026 09:27 am
earp wrote: 10 Feb 2026 08:59 am “I’ll tell ya what, folks… this bullpen’s givin’ me more gray hair than a doubleheader in August. I mean, good gracious, partner — you hand these fellas a three‑run lead and they treat it like it’s a hot potato. BOOM — walk, walk, double, and suddenly I’m lookin’ for the antacids.

You can’t be doin’ that! Not in THIS ballpark, not in THIS town. These Cardinal fans know their baseball. They’ve seen Gibson, they’ve seen Sutter, they’ve seen Izzy slam the door like he was lockin’ up the family hardware store. And now we got fellas out there pitchin’ like they’re tryin’ to win a raffle instead of a ballgame.

I’m tellin’ ya, if they don’t start throwin’ strikes, I’m gonna march down there myself and show ’em how to do it. And I haven’t thrown a baseball since the Reagan administration. But I guarantee ya I’d at least hit the strike zone!

Mercy! This bullpen’s gonna put me in early retirement — and I’m already retired!”---------? WHO ?
Sounds like Whitey to me:)
I would add.. "My grandmother could have gotten that squeeze bunt down and she's been dead for 20 years!"

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
by Hoosier59
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
by 45s
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 10:13 am
by Jeff Goldblum
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
Precisely. Garbage in, garbage out.

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 11:20 am
by Hoosier59
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
I didn’t say a “ top 3 prospect “ I said each team’s top 3 “ pitching prospects. There is a difference, you know? Also, did you even read the rest of the post?
I also didn’t say, that alone, any one traded could have gotten one, but instead of making individual moves that only netted lottery types, you put players together for one guy that is more likely to succeed.

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 11:22 am
by 45s
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 11:20 am
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
I didn’t say a “ top 3 prospect “ I said each team’s top 3 “ pitching prospects. There is a difference, you know? Also, did you even read the rest of the post?
I also didn’t say, that alone, any one traded could have gotten one, but instead of making individual moves that only netted lottery types, you put players together for one guy that is more likely to succeed.
Stop the spin….getting dizzy…

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 11:24 am
by Hoosier59
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:13 am
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
Precisely. Garbage in, garbage out.
That’s not true either!
MLB rated both Contreras and Donovan in the top ten at their positions! That’s not garbage. Sonny Gray isn’t a #1 starter anymore, but he’s still a solid pitcher. He just had an unrealistic contract that Mo signed him to.
Dewitt wanted the payroll reduced and other teams knew it and took advantage of Bloom because he had little choices!

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 12:58 pm
by Jeff Goldblum
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 11:24 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:13 am
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
Precisely. Garbage in, garbage out.
That’s not true either!
MLB rated both Contreras and Donovan in the top ten at their positions! That’s not garbage. Sonny Gray isn’t a #1 starter anymore, but he’s still a solid pitcher. He just had an unrealistic contract that Mo signed him to.
Dewitt wanted the payroll reduced and other teams knew it and took advantage of Bloom because he had little choices!
I highly doubt that Gms make trades based on the rankings on mlb.com.

Re: If You Hate What The Cardinals Are Doing

Posted: 10 Feb 2026 13:53 pm
by ScotchMIrish
45s wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:07 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 10 Feb 2026 10:04 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:02 am I don't dislike what they are doing. I question how they are doing it. They have no choice with the tv deal crashing but it doesn't appear to me they are getting adequate return.
My feelings exactly.
No pitching prospect they’ve acquired has even been in that organization’s top three pitching prospects! Bloom has settled in every deal made so far, because other teams know his hands are tied, and has been told to tear it all down. It’s hard to get the best deals when you have to deal under those conditions!
Which players the club has traded are worthy of a top three prospect?
Donovan.