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butsir01 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:55 am Wouldn’t it be dishonest to label Gorman a designated hitter?

You mean the guy with this line?
.205/.296/.370./.666 88

OldRed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:41 am Who leads off?

And so on.

Too soon to say.
STL is required by the rules to have a LF and a DH in the lineup - and it is possible neither one is on the roster.

Depends on who’s pitching and who makes the team.

Scott - Cf
Winn - SS
Arraez - LF
Herrera - C
Burleson - LH-DH /
Walker - RF
Gorman - 1B
Wetherholt - 2B
Fermin - 3B
Liberatore - P

kscardsfan wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:05 pm Scott - Cf
Winn - SS
Arraez - LF
Herrera - C
Burleson - LH-DH /
Walker - RF
Gorman - 1B
Wetherholt - 2B
Fermin - 3B
Liberatore - P

Fermin? He’s barely going to make the team. AAAA player at best

butsir01 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:55 am Wouldn’t it be dishonest to label Gorman a designated hitter?

He's not good but he's at least a better hitter than Saggese.

We all know Sagesse had a good year like 2-3 years ago - so did Gorman once.

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 19:41 pm

butsir01 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:55 am Wouldn’t it be dishonest to label Gorman a designated hitter?

You mean the guy with this line?
.205/.296/.370./.666 88

That number is Satanic. In more ways than one.

Here's Steamer's thoughts using their wRC+ projections which consider only offense.

vs RHP
125 Burleson 1B
123 Herrera C
121 Nootbar RF
115 Wetherholt 2B
105 Torres LF
103 Fermin 3B
101 Gorman DH
100 Winn SS
98 Church CF
Bench Pozo, Walker, Velazquez, Baez

vs LHP
135 Herrera DH
110 Fermin 3B
107 Winn SS
106 Walker RF
104 Velazquez LF
102 Pozo C
98 Baez CF
96 Burleson 1B
??? Wetherholt 2B
Bench Nootbar, Torres, Gorman, Church

What's the over/under on runs scored by this vaunted group this season?

Youboughtit wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 21:04 pm

kscardsfan wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 20:05 pm Scott - Cf
Winn - SS
Arraez - LF
Herrera - C
Burleson - LH-DH /
Walker - RF
Gorman - 1B
Wetherholt - 2B
Fermin - 3B
Liberatore - P

Fermin? He’s barely going to make the team. AAAA player at best

I believe Fermin is the better player over your Saggese. I may be wrong. But I doubt it.

As of today:

Wetherholt - 2b
Winn - SS
Burleson - 1b
Hererra - C
Gorman - 3b
Pozo - DH
Church - LF
Walker - RF
Scott - CF

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 21:26 pm

butsir01 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:55 am Wouldn’t it be dishonest to label Gorman a designated hitter?

He's not good but he's at least a better hitter than Saggese.

We all know Sagesse had a good year like 2-3 years ago - so did Gorman once.

Saggese followed up his stellar AA performance with a 20 homer season his first year in AAA. Before his call up last season, he was hitting .317 at Memphis! So, just keep pouring out your negativity, without really knowing what you’re talking about!
That said Fermin deserves a chance too. As does Torres.

The trouble with Torres, Church, and Scott is their complete absence of power.
Fermin, Bernal and Prieto haven't exactly slugged either.

The trouble with Walker, Gorman, and Burleson is their lack of defensive ability.

This is what I would do knowing full well a lot of this probably isnt going to work…

2B JJ
SS Winn
1B Burly
C Herrera
LF Noot when he returns
DH Gorman
RF Walker
3B Saggese
CF Scott

INF Fermin
OF Church
INF/OF RH FA acquisition (maybe Joedan though they’d have to get him on the 40 man)
C Pozo/Crooks/Pages

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 21:26 pm

butsir01 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 09:55 am Wouldn’t it be dishonest to label Gorman a designated hitter?

He's not good but he's at least a better hitter than Saggese.

We all know Sagesse had a good year like 2-3 years ago - so did Gorman once.

Better hitter? No shot.
More power? Yeah. But not a better hitter. Not even close.

vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2026 11:03 am Is noot for sure not going to be ready by opening day?

SS Winn
2B Wetherholt
DH Herrera
1B Burleson
LF FA addition
3B Gorman
RF Walker
C Pages/Crooks
CF Scott

I mentioned Winn at SS. Whats your take there.