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Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:21 pm
by kyace
Get over it , the Cards can sign Donovan as a free agent in two years when they are ready to compete and not waste the next two years here while they suck. Meanwhile they got a Carlos Martinez with a brain, two high draft picks in a very deep draft plus a high upside 20 year old with tools to be a superstar. Also a decent outfielder prospect from Tampa.
Bloom did a great job in the deal.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:23 pm
by brock118
Midrange Jay wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:15 pm
zoiks wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:11 pm Bloom didn’t panic. If you haven’t been following along, the Cardinals’ local tv contract decreased about $50m per year from its peak of a couple years ago. Dewitt told Bloom to dump any payroll he could, so that’s what he’s done this offseason. The Mariners were always the team that made the most sense for a Donovan trade.
Got to get that payroll below $60 million.
We are at $88.80665 right now including payments to Gray, Contreras & Arenado for the 26 man payroll. I figure JoJo will be traded soon and Nootbaar as soon as he shows he's healthy that would be another $9.61.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:23 pm
by HorseTrader
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
TWO 2026 comp picks #68 and #72

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:24 pm
by Midrange Jay
brock118 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:23 pm
Midrange Jay wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:15 pm
zoiks wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:11 pm Bloom didn’t panic. If you haven’t been following along, the Cardinals’ local tv contract decreased about $50m per year from its peak of a couple years ago. Dewitt told Bloom to dump any payroll he could, so that’s what he’s done this offseason. The Mariners were always the team that made the most sense for a Donovan trade.
Got to get that payroll below $60 million.
We are at $88.80665 right now including payments to Gray, Contreras & Arenado for the 26 man payroll. I figure JoJo will be traded soon and Nootbaar as soon as he shows he's healthy that would be another $9.61.
Oh yeah. Didn’t count our players on other teams. Who wants season tickets?!?!

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:30 pm
by An Old Friend
Quincy Varnish wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:11 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
He got 2 comp picks… one from both Tampa and Seattle.
Really? That’s solid.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:43 pm
by Ozziesfan41
kyace wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:21 pm Get over it , the Cards can sign Donovan as a free agent in two years when they are ready to compete and not waste the next two years here while they suck. Meanwhile they got a Carlos Martinez with a brain, two high draft picks in a very deep draft plus a high upside 20 year old with tools to be a superstar. Also a decent outfielder prospect from Tampa.
Bloom did a great job in the deal.
+1

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:44 pm
by Ozziesfan41
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
I left off the blue font I actually liked the trade. I was hoping they could have got Montes but I’m sure that was a deal breaker for the mariners

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:46 pm
by Cusecards
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:43 pm
kyace wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:21 pm Get over it , the Cards can sign Donovan as a free agent in two years when they are ready to compete and not waste the next two years here while they suck. Meanwhile they got a Carlos Martinez with a brain, two high draft picks in a very deep draft plus a high upside 20 year old with tools to be a superstar. Also a decent outfielder prospect from Tampa.
Bloom did a great job in the deal.
+1
+2
Plus....the fact that the biggest imbeciles on CT are “panning” the moves....only makes me more giddy with excitement! LOL

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:47 pm
by Melville
He did not panic.
But he sure failed to move the needle.
What he obtained the organization already had on hand.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:50 pm
by Carp4Cy
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
I'm concerned with a lack of elite RH MOTO bats either in MLB or in our system anywhere? At some point we need to use these trades or draft picks to obtain what we lack and desperately need, not just the theoretical best player available.

Mike Sirota was mentioned before for Donny, and/or Jojo or Nado, yet we didn't pull that off.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 19:51 pm
by Rojo Johnson
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:08 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:02 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:59 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:52 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
These are the same people who lay on their horn in highway gridlock.
AOF was attempting to assess the trade quality by detailing where the prospects were drafted….2-3yr ago. Who cares…..what matters is are they any good now.
Are you still here?
Your lack of baseball acumen becomes more obvious with every post.
As is often noted.
Paige you were one of the geniuses cheering MO’s idiocy on well into great drawdown……while I was telling you the downturn was coming
And your responses were the same as they are right now…..don’t lecture me on the ability to see and assess baseball talent
The Monday Morning QBing around here is hilarious……
+1000. The guy is a know it all moron.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 20:00 pm
by Melville
Carp4Cy wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:50 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
I'm concerned with a lack of elite RH MOTO bats either in MLB or in our system anywhere? At some point we need to use these trades or draft picks to obtain what we lack and desperately need, not just the theoretical best player available.

Mike Sirota was mentioned before for Donny, and/or Jojo or Nado, yet we didn't pull that off.
Correct.
This trade was poorly conceived.
Bloom's prior moves were much, much smarter.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 20:02 pm
by vegascardsfan5890
Rojo Johnson wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:51 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:08 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:02 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:59 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:52 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
These are the same people who lay on their horn in highway gridlock.
AOF was attempting to assess the trade quality by detailing where the prospects were drafted….2-3yr ago. Who cares…..what matters is are they any good now.
Are you still here?
Your lack of baseball acumen becomes more obvious with every post.
As is often noted.
Paige you were one of the geniuses cheering MO’s idiocy on well into great drawdown……while I was telling you the downturn was coming
And your responses were the same as they are right now…..don’t lecture me on the ability to see and assess baseball talent
The Monday Morning QBing around here is hilarious……
+1000. The guy is a know it all moron.
Paige sucks more front office dick than anybody on here. It's hilarious. I think he might be DeWitt in disguise lol

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 20:10 pm
by iowa blues fan
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:09 pm Waiting 4 months for a deal he could have made back in November

Bloom panicked. He saw SF got a 2B and knew he only had one team left and made the quickest deal possible.

Bloom was horrible with the Red Sox and hes horrible now.

Also, can he not evaluate hitters at all?
No matter the return, I am quite confident you people would’ve complained.

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 20:11 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Carp4Cy wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:50 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
I'm concerned with a lack of elite RH MOTO bats either in MLB or in our system anywhere? At some point we need to use these trades or draft picks to obtain what we lack and desperately need, not just the theoretical best player available.

Mike Sirota was mentioned before for Donny, and/or Jojo or Nado, yet we didn't pull that off.
Lol just because you heard it mentioned before doesn’t mean it was actually offered it. Cardinals are as likely to asked for him and they said no as the dodgers actually offering him for Donnie attaching arenado to Donny would have lowered the return. If the dodgers trade Sirota it will be in a package for headliner like skubal. The dodgers already have edman as a utility guy anyway they aren’t going to over pay for Donovan but people are going to be delusional and convince themselves the cardinals were offered all of these great prospects and bloom said nah I’ll take these guys instead lol

Re: Bloom panicked

Posted: 02 Feb 2026 20:13 pm
by Carp4Cy
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 20:11 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 02 Feb 2026 19:50 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:46 pm
Goldfan wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:19 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 18:13 pm Yea he did way overvalue Donovan
He got a 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, and a 2026 comp pick.

That’s a lot of value for a good not great player with 2 years of control.
AOF, who give a chit where they were drafted…..are they any good now??????
There will be plenty of folks on here that focus almost entirely on these three things:

The 2026 MLB 26-man roster
The 2026 MLB payroll
The 2026 MLB win/loss record

These folks will not be happy through this rebuild for quite some time. The immediate focus and priority for Bloom and Company are really none of those three things. This rebuild is going to take some time (years).
I'm concerned with a lack of elite RH MOTO bats either in MLB or in our system anywhere? At some point we need to use these trades or draft picks to obtain what we lack and desperately need, not just the theoretical best player available.

Mike Sirota was mentioned before for Donny, and/or Jojo or Nado, yet we didn't pull that off.
Lol just because you heard it mentioned before doesn’t mean it was actually offered it. Cardinals are as likely to asked for him and they said no as the dodgers actually offering him for Donnie attaching arenado to Donny would have lowered the return. If the dodgers trade Sirota it will be in a package for headliner like skubal. The dodgers already have edman as a utility guy anyway they aren’t going to over pay for Donovan but people are going to be delusional and convince themselves the cardinals were offered all of these great prospects and bloom said nah I’ll take these guys instead lol
Still he's probably the type hitter we need to target. With all the P and C prospects we now have, could have swapped some of them as well to sweeten the pot and make it happen.

High quality will soon be needed more than quantity.