Why not Brian Woo

[Ozziesfan41]

Good morning.

We have mentioned each of Seattles starters- Gilbert- Woo- Kirby-Miller. Gilbert makes 4M, the rest in the 700K range, for several years. Fits the mold.

I looked up values. Woo is the 15 th highest valued pitcher and 155 valued olayer of 760 roster players.

Soon Seattle will lose these guys, soon they will trade to reload.

Maybe now. They too are in a window. Time is now. AL west is down.

Is this the kind of deal we should be looking into for the rebuild.

The mariners have said they aren’t trading pitchers off their major league roster thats why marte isnt a mariner. But that may be why donovan isnt either bloom may be wanting on of their major league starters and they aren’t going for it

[sikeston bulldog2]

You are right, the Mariners are in their window to win right now, and aren’t going to reduce their chances of completing by trading one of their Major League starters. The fact that those same starters are going to start becoming expensive soon, is also another reason a deal for Donovan hasn’t come together. Anderson, and Sloan are being counted on by Seattle to replace a couple of those guys when they do get expensive! You can’t really blame them. They would really like to have Donovan but they aren’t willing to mortgage the future to get him. Since it is taking this long for any kind of a deal to get done, it looks like Bloom is the one that is going to have concede if the Cardinals really want to get some kind of a deal done.

Seattle's window is viable for quite a few years

The AL west is weaker and ripe for dominance. Might that be a caveat.

[Melville]

Miller, Anderson, and Arroyo for Donovan (if Bloom insists on trading him), Romero, and Mootbaar.

[mattmitchl44]

Seattle should be trading Sloan or Anderson before Woo if they are in "win now" mode. And Sloan or Anderson probably fit the Cardinals timeline better.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Seattle should be trading Sloane or Anderson before Woo if they are in "win now" mode. And Sloane or Anderson probably fit the Cardinals timeline better.

Do these two give us the projected 4 War player we need for the model. If not where do they line item in at.

[ggnoobs]

Woo is not a Free Agent until 2030. When he signs it will be for over 50 million AAV. To trade for him would take Wetherholt and Doyle plus 2 other elite prospects.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Woo is not a Free Agent until 2030. When he signs it will be for over 50 million AAV. To trade for him would take Wetherholt and Doyle plus 2 other elite prospects.

Thanx. To my intent. If it takes that level of player/s to be competitive, how do we compete.

Unless we grow them.

[kyace]

Sad part of this is that 3 years ago Gorman would have got you Woo and two years ago Nootbaar. Seattle really wanted those two several years back.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Sad part of this is that 3 years ago Gorman would have got you Woo and two years ago Nootbaar. Seattle really wanted those two several years back.

Today Woo is simply not available to any team.

[Cardinals4Life]

Good morning.

We have mentioned each of Seattles starters- Gilbert- Woo- Kirby-Miller. Gilbert makes 4M, the rest in the 700K range, for several years. Fits the mold.

I looked up values. Woo is the 15 th highest valued pitcher and 155 valued olayer of 760 roster players.

Soon Seattle will lose these guys, soon they will trade to reload.

Maybe now. They too are in a window. Time is now. AL west is down.

Is this the kind of deal we should be looking into for the rebuild.

by rockondlouie » 03 Dec 2025 14:48 pm

Lotta smoke around the M's for sure

Donny + Burleson + JoJo

for

Woo

Get er' done Bloom!

That would be sick!
Who then plays 1B? Blaze Jordan? Herrera (if he doesn't cut it at C - which he will!)? Gorman? Crooks?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Sad part of this is that 3 years ago Gorman would have got you Woo and two years ago Nootbaar. Seattle really wanted those two several years back.

Today Woo is simply not available to any team.

Your thoughts on a requirement to have a 4 War pitcher to reach competitiveness. It doesn’t have to be Woo. Any player at that level will do.

Then, if you see a need, is it a bridge too far.

[Cardinals4Life]

Seattle should be trading Sloan or Anderson before Woo if they are in "win now" mode. And Sloan or Anderson probably fit the Cardinals timeline better.

I agree with this.
Seattle can't have it both ways, can they? Not wanting to trade MLB pitching because they are in a win-now mode. Not wanting to trade young pitchers, who theybaee as the future. They are going to have to give to get!

What would it take to get Sloan or Anderson?

[mattmitchl44]

Seattle should be trading Sloane or Anderson before Woo if they are in "win now" mode. And Sloane or Anderson probably fit the Cardinals timeline better.

Do these two give us the projected 4 War player we need for the model. If not where do they line item in at.

They give you the potential to develop 3+ fWAR or better, borderline #2/#3 SP or better. That's a strong add to go with Doyle (who is similar).

[Cardinals4Life]

Sad part of this is that 3 years ago Gorman would have got you Woo and two years ago Nootbaar. Seattle really wanted those two several years back.

Today Woo is simply not available to any team.

Your thoughts on a requirement to have a 4 War pitcher to reach competitiveness. It doesn’t have to be Woo. Any player at that level will do.

Then, if you see a need, is it a bridge too far.

Its a bridge too far because the Cards have decided to build with the younger guys. Trades for those types of players require the younger guys. So right now, while we are building, the only way to acquire those guys is to grow one internally or buy one as a FA. Cards clearly refuse to do the latter.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Sad part of this is that 3 years ago Gorman would have got you Woo and two years ago Nootbaar. Seattle really wanted those two several years back.

Today Woo is simply not available to any team.

Your thoughts on a requirement to have a 4 War pitcher to reach competitiveness. It doesn’t have to be Woo. Any player at that level will do.

Then, if you see a need, is it a bridge too far.

Its a bridge too far because the Cards have decided to build with the younger guys. Trades for those types of players require the younger guys. So right now, while we are building, the only way to acquire those guys is to grow one internally or buy one as a FA. Cards clearly refuse to do the latter.

Yes. At that cost they will demand is a no go. That’s one method gone. Next grow them. Our farm is furtive, but it’s gonna be a bit. Finally trade. Woo is 25. Aces don’t get much younger do they?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Seattle should be trading Sloane or Anderson before Woo if they are in "win now" mode. And Sloane or Anderson probably fit the Cardinals timeline better.

Do these two give us the projected 4 War player we need for the model. If not where do they line item in at.

They give you the potential to develop 3+ fWAR or better, borderline #2/#3 SP or better. That's a strong add to go with Doyle (who is similar).

Ok, thanx