Faulk name heating up?

[TheJackBurton]

If we're being honest we all know we are not winning this year. We all know we have been wanting off that contract since it was signed we have jiricek pushing for a roster spot next year. If a good offer is to be had idk how you dont take it.

I know drafting near the top is a hot button topic around here but I WANT to this year...

We?

[TheJackBurton]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

Why? I mean, that would be great, but why do they have to overpay to get him? What are we holding him for? Aside from a few bright spots, Faulk has not shown much during his time in St.Louis that would make him worth an overpay. If we get a second and a mid prospect I'd be surprised.

We don't have anyone to play 2nd line R dman, that's why.

In order for a team to get him they are going to have to make it impossible for Army to say no because we don't have anyone to take his place and the UFA market won't be able to fill it either.

This is a case of a player potentially being an excellent trade chip, but you would drastically be hurting an area that is (bleep) near impossible to fill in today's NHL without overpaying both in a trade and UFA.

[Old_Goat]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

That’s probably what Army is asking with obviously no takers. Overvaluing his assets again.

Whats the rush to trade him? I dont think the Blues are counting on Mailloux or Jiricek to play 20+ min as soon as next year and Faulk is already signed. If Army isnt getting what he wants why sell low

Agree. It's a relative term, but in this case it's a "Seller's market." We need him...Depending on the deal, we could possibly do without him.
Forget about the past -- why, how we got him, what, how he has contributed. Have to focus on the now and the future. Again, it's relative, his contract $/term are not high/long at this point.

[Bacchk29]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

That’s probably what Army is asking with obviously no takers. Overvaluing his assets again.

Whats the rush to trade him? I dont think the Blues are counting on Mailloux or Jiricek to play 20+ min as soon as next year and Faulk is already signed. If Army isnt getting what he wants why sell low

With his offensive production this year, you’re not gonna get any more than now or at least before the deadline. Next year he could get hurt or he reverts back to what he has been.

[blues2112]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

Why? I mean, that would be great, but why do they have to overpay to get him? What are we holding him for? Aside from a few bright spots, Faulk has not shown much during his time in St.Louis that would make him worth an overpay. If we get a second and a mid prospect I'd be surprised.

We don't have anyone to play 2nd line R dman, that's why.

In order for a team to get him they are going to have to make it impossible for Army to say no because we don't have anyone to take his place and the UFA market won't be able to fill it either.

This is a case of a player potentially being an excellent trade chip, but you would drastically be hurting an area that is (drat) near impossible to fill in today's NHL without overpaying both in a trade and UFA.

Faulk's cap hit is tied for 135th. That's a bargain for a 2RHD.

As for the speculation, it's exactly that. Remember how many hockey "and pundits board members here were sure that Quinn Hughes was being traded to NJD?

[theograce]

Vegas is missing Pietrangelo so very badly.

Could you imagine Faulk being traded for a second time, only to be asked to replace Pietrangelo again... At least this time there's no awkward overlap between the two.

Yeah kinda funny actually. They didn’t need a Marner. They need to replace Pietrangelo…which is not possible.

Pietrangelo is such a glue guy. Marner is not

[leedog68]

Why did they dump JK in the off season? Nobody really knows, but my best guess is a cost cutting move. If that is the case, Stillman may really want to get a few home playoff games revenue even if they aren't really Cup contenders.

[SameOldBlues]

let's not forget how pedestrian Faulker has been the last couple of years. If he doesn't completely fall off before March, we would be selling high on him at the trade deadline. I say do it if the return is reasonable

Exactly. People around here always clutching their pearls anytime any Blues player is rumored to be on the trade block…even tho Faulk is doing us a favor and is having a decent season finally after a gew craap ones. He could easily go back to suckin next year and his trade value plummets again.

Time to look longterm

[TruBlueFan_1970]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

That’s probably what Army is asking with obviously no takers. Overvaluing his assets again.

Yep. I like Faulk, but this smells like the Buch rumors before he signed an extension where Army was reportedly asking for the equivalent of 2 first rounders in either picks or players. Seriously overplayed his hand with Buch. If you get a 1st for Faulk, you run with it

[DutchBlue]

Vegas is missing Pietrangelo so very badly.

Could you imagine Faulk being traded for a second time, only to be asked to replace Pietrangelo again... At least this time there's no awkward overlap between the two.

Yeah kinda funny actually. They didn’t need a Marner. They need to replace Pietrangelo…which is not possible.

Pietrangelo is such a glue guy. Marner is not

Really? The glue guy? Was it not common knowledge that the team had two sides during his captaincy and that O’Reilly icm Steen sorted everything out?

Btw missed you in the Canada threads!

Judging by him playing defense against knights I would say yes immediately if someone would offer me a 1st round pick and a solid prospect in return.

[TheJackBurton]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

That’s probably what Army is asking with obviously no takers. Overvaluing his assets again.

Yep. I like Faulk, but this smells like the Buch rumors before he signed an extension where Army was reportedly asking for the equivalent of 2 first rounders in either picks or players. Seriously overplayed his hand with Buch. If you get a 1st for Faulk, you run with it

But getting a late first rounder doesn't do any good any at all.

If you want a younger player back, then there's at least a discussion to be had, but a late 1st rounder?

That does more harm than good. We trade our #2 RHDman, don't replace him and pick a player that the odds say won't see the ice in a Blues uniform for at least 3 seasons.

If you are trading him, just like with Kyrou, it has to be for an NHL player, for what the teams needs are.

[theograce]

Vegas is missing Pietrangelo so very badly.

Could you imagine Faulk being traded for a second time, only to be asked to replace Pietrangelo again... At least this time there's no awkward overlap between the two.

Yeah kinda funny actually. They didn’t need a Marner. They need to replace Pietrangelo…which is not possible.

Pietrangelo is such a glue guy. Marner is not

Really? The glue guy?

Yes a glue guy. That’s why Armstrong named him Captain … and Team Canada named him with McDavid and Crosby (first ever for any Blue) … and why Vegas put a letter on his chest on day 1 (which almost never happens)….and why Armstrong puts him up with hockey legends.

Blues fans not knowing this hilarious

[steve li]

I think Faulk would need to bring back a 1st, a higher end prospect, and a decent D prospect. If you're Armstrong, why settle for anything less? You still have him next year. He could always be flipped then if necessary. We won't be a cup team next year either. Someone is going to have to overpay this year to get him.

That’s probably what Army is asking with obviously no takers. Overvaluing his assets again.

Yep. I like Faulk, but this smells like the Buch rumors before he signed an extension where Army was reportedly asking for the equivalent of 2 first rounders in either picks or players. Seriously overplayed his hand with Buch. If you get a 1st for Faulk, you run with it

"Reportedly" is doing a crapload of work there.

[Younghopp1991]

The only reason to not trade faulk is if you believe in your heart that we are cup contenders this season. Not playoffs. Are we making a run for the cup THIS SEASON and do we have any more of a shot other than “anything can happen” if you do not believe whole heartedly then faulk goes to the highest bidder.

There are too many things going wrong this season and he is one of our only bright spots that we can capitalize on.

[callitwhatyouwant]

I don't see how you trade Faulk to a team you're competing with for a playoff spot, when you don't have to trade him at all. Next season, sure. Thinking back to 2017 it would not be completely out of character for Army, but right now is too soon.

+1 DawgDad, I find myself agreeing with a lot of your posts. You are a welcome addition to the forum and a breath of fresh air.

I find the trade rumor stuff to always be funny on this board. Parayko has a huge season last year Trade Him! Faulk is having a good year, Trade Him! It's the same old song and dance. The trolls want the team to be bad, so they gravitate towards trying to trade the players that are playing well. They then say the other players are unhappy and want out or we should give them away for peanuts. See the patterns?

The Blues are always open for business. Army has made that clear, the question is whether they are sellers or buyers. The other day during the cast, he didn't sound very confident in this group. But he did make it a point to say Faulk and Broberg were the 2 guys that have been consistent all year.

The other thing to note, Army has already said a trade isn't happening for guys that are going to help 3-4-5 years down the road like draft picks. It has to be someone who can come in and help out now. So unless the package is something that can moved to replace Faulk with a younger player that can help, all you are doing is creating a hole where the team has a big hole in development at RHD. Jiricek looks like he could be that guy, but he's a 3-5 years away from being a mainstay guy.

Trading Faulk while exciting for people who hate watch the Blues, seems like a difficult thing to pull off giving what we would need to come back.

[wiscrev]

The only reason to not trade faulk is if you believe in your heart that we are cup contenders this season. Not playoffs. Are we making a run for the cup THIS SEASON and do we have any more of a shot other than “anything can happen” if you do not believe whole heartedly then faulk goes to the highest bidder.

There are too many things going wrong this season and he is one of our only bright spots that we can capitalize on.

Hmmmm, 2019?