I would argue that the QB is his second biggest mistake. and what you mentioned later is his largest issue. His arrogance in thinking he knows anything about how to run an offense has been his biggest demise.knttiger wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:51 am Drink’s biggest mistake the past 3-4 seasons is failing to identify a qb capable of leading us to greater heights. Brady was a good,not elite college qb- talented runner, mediocre passer. It’s unusual to have both qualities, and those guys not are coming to Mizzou in the portal unless Drink gets his hands completely off the offensive play calling. Be the CEO, be the face of the program, but for God and Mizzou’s sake, please let the new OC select a qb and call plays. The same way you allow our DCs to run their side of the ball. You’re a terrible OC, so stay in your lane and do what you’re terrific at- media, NIL, building a team.
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You are not coming to terms with the fact that Barry was not even wanted by Arkansas when it had a vacancy. Nobody wanted him for any vacancy. He's not a good football coach for this level or even in the Big Ten. Maybe North Texas or some such. Get over it. Barry ain't returning.TheSolution wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 15:50 pmObviously that post was.Armchair QB wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 15:37 pmFor this to not be about Barry, it seems to be a lot about Barry.TheSolution wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pm1) This IS NOT about Barry, noting the culture and roster situation and NIL advantages to Missouri are relevant to understand Drink. That’s why the name is mentioned.Armchair QB wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:20 am How does Barry do if he doesn’t have Drew Lock?
Sorry, but Barry wasn’t getting the job done even with Drew, and was losing to teams that were embarrassing.
Drink has issues and things necessary to learn and fix. Otherwise he’ll eventually be gone. If he fancies himself an OC, he’s badly mistaken. He HAS to have great coaches around him and he HAS to let them do their jobs. We’ll see if this loss finally makes that apparent to him.
But Drink has won a lot more than Barry. It’s as simple as that. That’s why he’s in the position he is.
2) Even devout Mizzou fans will have totally forgot and removed from context the race rioting and near closure of the University of Missouri. The entire state hated Mizzou. There was no chance with local black athletes. They closed dorms. The entire MU system was cleared out. South Park made an episode on it. Mizzou was in the national spotlight as a racist university. The football team went on strike. Guns being pulled on teammates. Starting QB doing coke all over campus.
3) Barry went 20-14 after the Auburn speech he made when the team was 1-3 in his second year.
4) Barry couldn’t recruit is false. He was dealt the worst hand (see South Park episode) a recruiter of mostly black athletes could possibly be dealt. Guys like McGuire were the 3 stars Barry found and were massively key to Drinks success. He recruited in line with Pinkel’s classes and would have upticked with NIL just as Drink did. Barry won a national recruiting battle for a very in-demand black quarterback (closing the book, moving forward nationally on the racist lore). It’s too bad that QB turned out to be a selfish bad teammate causing distraction to culture.
If anyone watched Purdue this year they’d see the schematic preparation was on point. A lot of great first quarters and first halves vs rosters with far superior ability. I would not have advised Barry take that job. It’s not the same world as even a few years ago in how athletes view universities. Purdue is not sexy in any way. He would have been better ripping off 10 wins at UNLV this year.
Drink is a 10 million dollar media manager. He’s not a football coach. And the worst part is, he’s probably not a very good person. He’s a manipulative low character nerd without the grit or intelligence to admire. He’s a fake smart guy, and obviously not a tough human. He’s neither. It’s a really sad deal he’s the leader of this program.
If you can’t see that to discuss Drink you must discuss Barry and NIL don’t know what to say.
But of course you and all would never actually recognize any of these points on Barry or take accountability for being bad fans who don’t know basic recent history of the program.
That response about Barry was necessary to correct totally inverted false comment by someone else about Barry.
It’s low tier character behavior like these responses that generally keep good and intelligent people away from places like this.
I sincerely cannot imagine caring enough about something to post about it online while also haven’t literally no f’n clue about very recent history. It’s the most baffling thing to me.
Anyway, carry on skimming by life on the surface not really paying attention to anything in detail or context.
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All subjective.icon wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 16:10 pmYou are not coming to terms with the fact that Barry was not even wanted by Arkansas when it had a vacancy. Nobody wanted him for any vacancy. He's not a good football coach for this level or even in the Big Ten. Maybe North Texas or some such. Get over it. Barry ain't returning.TheSolution wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 15:50 pmObviously that post was.Armchair QB wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 15:37 pmFor this to not be about Barry, it seems to be a lot about Barry.TheSolution wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:45 pm1) This IS NOT about Barry, noting the culture and roster situation and NIL advantages to Missouri are relevant to understand Drink. That’s why the name is mentioned.Armchair QB wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:20 am How does Barry do if he doesn’t have Drew Lock?
Sorry, but Barry wasn’t getting the job done even with Drew, and was losing to teams that were embarrassing.
Drink has issues and things necessary to learn and fix. Otherwise he’ll eventually be gone. If he fancies himself an OC, he’s badly mistaken. He HAS to have great coaches around him and he HAS to let them do their jobs. We’ll see if this loss finally makes that apparent to him.
But Drink has won a lot more than Barry. It’s as simple as that. That’s why he’s in the position he is.
2) Even devout Mizzou fans will have totally forgot and removed from context the race rioting and near closure of the University of Missouri. The entire state hated Mizzou. There was no chance with local black athletes. They closed dorms. The entire MU system was cleared out. South Park made an episode on it. Mizzou was in the national spotlight as a racist university. The football team went on strike. Guns being pulled on teammates. Starting QB doing coke all over campus.
3) Barry went 20-14 after the Auburn speech he made when the team was 1-3 in his second year.
4) Barry couldn’t recruit is false. He was dealt the worst hand (see South Park episode) a recruiter of mostly black athletes could possibly be dealt. Guys like McGuire were the 3 stars Barry found and were massively key to Drinks success. He recruited in line with Pinkel’s classes and would have upticked with NIL just as Drink did. Barry won a national recruiting battle for a very in-demand black quarterback (closing the book, moving forward nationally on the racist lore). It’s too bad that QB turned out to be a selfish bad teammate causing distraction to culture.
If anyone watched Purdue this year they’d see the schematic preparation was on point. A lot of great first quarters and first halves vs rosters with far superior ability. I would not have advised Barry take that job. It’s not the same world as even a few years ago in how athletes view universities. Purdue is not sexy in any way. He would have been better ripping off 10 wins at UNLV this year.
Drink is a 10 million dollar media manager. He’s not a football coach. And the worst part is, he’s probably not a very good person. He’s a manipulative low character nerd without the grit or intelligence to admire. He’s a fake smart guy, and obviously not a tough human. He’s neither. It’s a really sad deal he’s the leader of this program.
If you can’t see that to discuss Drink you must discuss Barry and NIL don’t know what to say.
But of course you and all would never actually recognize any of these points on Barry or take accountability for being bad fans who don’t know basic recent history of the program.
That response about Barry was necessary to correct totally inverted false comment by someone else about Barry.
It’s low tier character behavior like these responses that generally keep good and intelligent people away from places like this.
I sincerely cannot imagine caring enough about something to post about it online while also haven’t literally no f’n clue about very recent history. It’s the most baffling thing to me.
Anyway, carry on skimming by life on the surface not really paying attention to anything in detail or context.
20-14 here after Auburn speech.
And that’s with bad racist momentum, a stadium under construction, and NCAA sanctions limiting scholarships and bowl appearance.
Nobody is saying he’s coming back here.
The ‘ask’ is to remember recent Mizzou history properly if you all intend to care enough to post about it.
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This. Odom inherited a dumpster fire. Pinkel destroyed a legacy in one season (2015) that took him over a decade to build. Odom kept the program from sliding off into oblivion. Now, did Odom have his own issues? Yes. A first time head coach, who’s prior experience was as a HS coach, he became a control freak: HC, DC (if not in title, in fact), LB coach and ST coach. You can’t be successful like that in the SEC.TheSolution wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:58 pmThis is the saddest part about Mizzou fans. It’s such a poorly educated hive mind.
Barry’s teams regressed?
After losing 51-14 to Auburn in year two, sitting at 1-3 and then losing to Georgia they won 6 in a row to finish above .500.
Then won 8 games the next year (progressing).
Then, in his final year, (a transition year), after losing an NFL quality QB, things didn’t go well with the number one national transfer recruit at QB who didn’t live up to hype and greatly damaged team culture with his selfish behavior off the field. Still, that team rallied to be .500.
Barry’s teams didn’t regress.
He went 20-14 after his “turnaround” speech after the Auburn loss in year two.
When Mizzou was hit with sanctions for something bad under Pinkel’s tenure, ZERO Mizzou players transferred. And this was prior to the portal. Mizzou players had the green light to pick a new team with not transfer penalty and ALL of them stayed. That’s not quitting either.
The story is very literally the opposite of regressing and quitting. It’s SO SAD how Mizzou fans remember things.
The story is what he inherited, how he managed the turnaround and the unfortunate overall sentiment about Mizzou at the time to go with just an unfortunate situation regarding Kelly Bryant and lets not forget losing Cale Garret having an All-American season as the centerpiece of the defense to injury mid season.
That being said, he left the program in much better shape than he found it.