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Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 17:27 pm It’s the same ownership that has not won a 2nd round playoff game in a decade and doesn’t seem to care less about it

Sincere question:
Why exactly do you follow the team AND post here??

I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

Cusecards wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:13 pm

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 17:27 pm It’s the same ownership that has not won a 2nd round playoff game in a decade and doesn’t seem to care less about it

Sincere question:
Why exactly do you follow the team AND post here??

Yup, he says he's not been satisfied with the team for a decade, and let's face it, it's difficult to imagine him being satisfied with anything.

Me? If a retail web site blasts me with stupidity(a wheel to spin, begging for an e-mail, etc.) before I can even search their site for what I want, I close the tab and find a different source for my purchase. This dumb [fork] still follows a team he clearly hates.

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

And there are ppl who don’t understand rebuilds…

‘So far’ were the two key words in the title of this thread.

In the two trades thst Bloom has made if he received position players , the the thread may have said.. so far no pitchers have been acquired…

Gray and Contreras are the first two deals… more upcoming before spring training.

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 16:28 pm lol do you shills get paid by the front office? I mean for years you keep up the narrative that’s it’s early in the off season… and yet nothing happens except less and less salary…. You are either on the take or just plain stupid… maybe both

I agree the focus should be on an offensive addition at this point. And I do understand your skepticism based on Mo's pitiful history of winter inactivity. But there is a new guy in charge now. Im willing to give him the chance to prove himself over the next year. I think he will be more active than Mo's lazy, pathetic (donkey).

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

What i am shocked about is posters being oblivious about and in complete ignorance about the plan that bloom very simplistically laid out before the offseason began. Bernie said bloom told him he wanted to be transparent with fans. It’s mind boggling at this point that posters are still ignorant about it when he laid it out perfectly in order to be transparent. He said he would approach veterans about waiving their NTC he did. He said he would accumulate pitching he has. He said he would accumulate pitching he has. He said the cardinals would compete but not at the expense of the future that is what he is doing by trading for pitchers who can help now and in the future. He said the payroll would be about what it would be last season that’s the key people are ignoring. He had no idea how much payroll he would have to spend until he traded arenado gray and Contreras. He did two of them. He said he wants more starting pitching including another veteran starter including a a right handed power hitter and veteran reliever. He will do that. Why do I a believe him? Because he has point by point been doing exactly what he said he would do without deviation from the plan he laid out perfectly for people to understand. He even said they are not averse to signing players to multi year contracts and he will probably do that also. For the first time in along time they have someone in charge with a plan I’m happy for that

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

And how do fans hold them to a higher standard? By not showing up and not watching on television. Check and check

AnExParrot wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:24 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:13 pm

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 17:27 pm It’s the same ownership that has not won a 2nd round playoff game in a decade and doesn’t seem to care less about it

Sincere question:
Why exactly do you follow the team AND post here??

Yup, he says he's not been satisfied with the team for a decade, and let's face it, it's difficult to imagine him being satisfied with anything.

Me? If a retail web site blasts me with stupidity(a wheel to spin, begging for an e-mail, etc.) before I can even search their site for what I want, I close the tab and find a different source for my purchase. This dumb [fork] still follows a team he clearly hates.

Trolling an anonymous message board seeking attention from total strangers says it all.
Of course he’ll always be legendary for his BAZAR
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ramfandan wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:37 pm ‘So far’ were the two key words in the title of this thread.

In the two trades thst Bloom has made if he received position players , the the thread may have said.. so far no pitchers have been acquired…

Gray and Contreras are the first two deals… more upcoming before spring training.

Hurry up the clock is ticking!

Their probable 6 starters are 25, 26, 26, 26, 27, and 28. Last season they had 3 30+ starters, so the pitching got younger and I believe ALOT better so it all starts with pitching.

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

And you think scolding ownership in a chat forum is going to do the trick?
Once you realize that there are certain things in life you have no control over, you may start feeling a little healthier.

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

There was a time this organization was only concerned with contending for World Championships.

Then Mo somehow got the fanbase to buy into the idea of just make it and hope for a run. That was the start of the decline of the franchise.

Far too many bought into this being a good approach. It’s the worst place for a franchise to be. If we need to go through a couple of lean years to get back to be a team deemed a serious World Series contender than I am on board.

Time will tell if this rebuild will do that, but there was no realistic path back to World Series contender that didn’t require tearing it down and rebuilding. It’s on Bloom to have this organization on strong footing when they come out of this rebuild.

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:59 am

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

There was a time this organization was only concerned with contending for World Championships.

Then Mo somehow got the fanbase to buy into the idea of just make it and hope for a run. That was the start of the decline of the franchise.

Far too many bought into this being a good approach. It’s the worst place for a franchise to be. If we need to go through a couple of lean years to get back to be a team deemed a serious World Series contender than I am on board.

Time will tell if this rebuild will do that, but there was no realistic path back to World Series contender that didn’t require tearing it down and rebuilding. It’s on Bloom to have this organization on strong footing when they come out of this rebuild.

I don't recall that ever being true, at least not as many on CardsTalk saw it. Even back to the MV3 days there were people calling ownership cheap and that they didn't really want to win, in the midst of 100 and 105 win seasons with deep runs in the playoffs.

AnExParrot wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:30 am

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:59 am

Web7 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 18:19 pm I’m more shocked that fans think it’s ok for ownership to not even try anymore….. I mean playoff baseball use to be a huge part of life around here … now we have fans that are soft like Charmin….its ok …..I guess there are winners and losers in life ….. it’s pretty obvious with many on here …. Maybe if we actually held them to higher standards they would do something.

There was a time this organization was only concerned with contending for World Championships.

Then Mo somehow got the fanbase to buy into the idea of just make it and hope for a run. That was the start of the decline of the franchise.

Far too many bought into this being a good approach. It’s the worst place for a franchise to be. If we need to go through a couple of lean years to get back to be a team deemed a serious World Series contender than I am on board.

Time will tell if this rebuild will do that, but there was no realistic path back to World Series contender that didn’t require tearing it down and rebuilding. It’s on Bloom to have this organization on strong footing when they come out of this rebuild.

I don't recall that ever being true, at least not as many on CardsTalk saw it. Even back to the MV3 days there were people calling ownership cheap and that they didn't really want to win, in the midst of 100 and 105 win seasons with deep runs in the playoffs.

People are going to gripe just to gripe. Those were deep teams that ownership allowed star power like Larry Walker to be added to at the deadline. When was the last deadline the team added anyone of impact?

Still aways to go in the off season and I'm interested in how Bloom gets phase 2026 completed.

Now that Contreras is gone a Donovan deal would seem to be the piece which set some things in motion for position players such as Gorman and Burleson and where they may play next season.