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Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:49 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:41 pm For his career he has 17 BBs, 122 Ks in 366 PAs. Sounds even worse than Gorman.

It would be interesting to know what Bloom thinks of Loperfido. He's only 26. I've read some good things about his potential.

Shut up Bobo

No shady, just no.

renostl wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 14:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:49 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:41 pm For his career he has 17 BBs, 122 Ks in 366 PAs. Sounds even worse than Gorman.

It would be interesting to know what Bloom thinks of Loperfido. He's only 26. I've read some good things about his potential.

More of a Nootbaar replacement IMO with much more control if he
ever breaks through. He can play CF it would be impactful then.
It's on his resume IDK how well he does it.
So the same can be said about either player.

Not a bad thought. Where did you see him?

I just reviewed some video of him. I really didn't know much about him until recently.

I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

Yes, such as Miguel Andujar. He could be signed for about $5-7 MM for 1 year.

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:54 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

Why does he "need to move" trade chips? We're rebuilding....echo, echo. Once again, we're not ready to compete. We're not moving prospects, unless we get a much better prospect back.

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 16:49 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:54 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

Why does he "need to move" trade chips? We're rebuilding....echo, echo. Once again, we're not ready to compete. We're not moving prospects, unless we get a much better prospect back.

I disagree. There is a need to move on from some older players to make way for some younger. For their opportunity to develop. Ex. Wetherholt and Saggese. Just curious, do you feel there is a place for Nootbaar in the rebuild? I feel he's another older player that needs to be moved. Bloom also needs to move a catcher, don't you think?

12xu wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 16:48 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

Yes, such as Miguel Andujar. He could be signed for about $5-7 MM for 1 year.

I think Andujar could be interesting

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:30 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 16:49 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:54 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

Why does he "need to move" trade chips? We're rebuilding....echo, echo. Once again, we're not ready to compete. We're not moving prospects, unless we get a much better prospect back.

I disagree. There is a need to move on from some older players to make way for some younger. For their opportunity to develop. Ex. Wetherholt and Saggese. Just curious, do you feel there is a place for Nootbaar in the rebuild? I feel he's another older player that needs to be moved.

Nootbaar has nothing to do with you saying we needed to move Prospects to compete now.

And Nootbaar isn't blocking Saggese or Wetherholt, so I don't get your points.

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:30 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 16:49 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:54 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

Why does he "need to move" trade chips? We're rebuilding....echo, echo. Once again, we're not ready to compete. We're not moving prospects, unless we get a much better prospect back.

I disagree. There is a need to move on from some older players to make way for some younger. For their opportunity to develop. Ex. Wetherholt and Saggese. Just curious, do you feel there is a place for Nootbaar in the rebuild? I feel he's another older player that needs to be moved.

Nootbaar has nothing to do with you saying we needed to move Prospects to compete now.

And Nootbaar isn't blocking Saggese or Wetherholt, so I don't get your points.

What are you smoking? I didn't say "we needed to move Prospects to compete now". Far from it.

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:38 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:36 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:30 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 16:49 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:54 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

The thing about it. Bloom has some trade chips that he needs to move. I'm hoping he can maneuver some way to get some fairly young outfield help via trade/trades.

Why does he "need to move" trade chips? We're rebuilding....echo, echo. Once again, we're not ready to compete. We're not moving prospects, unless we get a much better prospect back.

I disagree. There is a need to move on from some older players to make way for some younger. For their opportunity to develop. Ex. Wetherholt and Saggese. Just curious, do you feel there is a place for Nootbaar in the rebuild? I feel he's another older player that needs to be moved.

Nootbaar has nothing to do with you saying we needed to move Prospects to compete now.

And Nootbaar isn't blocking Saggese or Wetherholt, so I don't get your points.

What are you smoking? I didn't say "we needed to move Prospects to compete now". Far from it.

I made the assumption you understood after all this time that the likes of Donovan, Contreras, Nado, and Nootbar would be moved for Prospects. And any major leaguer we "might" get back are salary offsets, or Innings filler for our questionable 2026 rotation. We're getting nothing of substance in the Major League realm. Certainly a team won't give us a good player back for our "Major League Trade Chips". To get good players, you have to trade your Prospect Trade Chips.

Forgive me for assuming that you grasped that realization.

We're gathering assets (prospects) to trade in 2028...outside chance for 2027, but I don't think that's in the plans...unless the 2026 offense somehow makes a gigantic leap in production....not likely when you lose the 4 I mentioned above.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:50 pm

Shady wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:39 pm I'd like to see more names presented for discussion that Bloom might pursue that might help the Cardinals outfield. Within a reasonable possibility. The name that I keep coming back to is Jasson Dominguez of the Yankees. I believe he might be available.

Unfortunately, Jason and Joey will probably cost you prospects and or multiple players.

We shouldn’t be looking to get one guy back for multiple guys. That’s not where the organization is right now.

If you’re looking for outfield options, I would probably start with looking at free agent options that can be had for a one year deal

Depends on the give. How high is can his price be
when he is being called a player not good enough?

Joey may not represent the upside that we would all love
but he does hit the profile as far as not being a FA until 2031.

Him not being a starter on Toronto's WS team should not warrant a
tremendous amount of critic when Cards starters would be challenged
to get PT there too. Seems a little inconsistent when players in AA can
be seen as prize. I understand he'll be 27 so not ideal, but there is
control through most of his prime.