Hate to see Schenn or Binnington go, but that would a great trade for Blues.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
Let the Binner intrigue begin again
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
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TruBlueFan_1970
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Toronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Oh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
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IsDurbanodoingtime
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Management like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
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TruBlueFan_1970
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
No thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
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Blues Dave
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
The only folks who really know about a players value are the ones moving the players, and they get it wrong sometimes too. The new kids are helping the team out right now. I'd ride with things the way they are for now. We may not have to do much of anything. JMO
Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Binner trade talk....just remarkable how so many can get this so wrong for so long.
I mean at some point it is possible one of ya'll will be right....just like the blind hog finding a road apple.
I mean at some point it is possible one of ya'll will be right....just like the blind hog finding a road apple.
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IsDurbanodoingtime
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
I don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
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TruBlueFan_1970
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Make it a blockbuster then. Give them Schenn, Holloway, Jecho and a 1st for Knies and a cap dump of their choosing.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 15:05 pmI don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.
Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
They might want to dump Matthews' cap on us.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 16:37 pmMake it a blockbuster then. Give them Schenn, Holloway, Jecho and a 1st for Knies and a cap dump of their choosing.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 15:05 pmI don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.![]()
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AtillaTheBlue1
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
lolI like Binnington and feel like he should retire a Blue
Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Thomas and Kryou for Matthews and one or two of their lesser contracts if Toronto needs cap relief.zamadoo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 17:08 pmThey might want to dump Matthews' cap on us.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 16:37 pmMake it a blockbuster then. Give them Schenn, Holloway, Jecho and a 1st for Knies and a cap dump of their choosing.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 15:05 pmI don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.![]()
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They get to play for their hometown team and have great familiarity with the Coach.
Sends message to the rest of the Toronto players. Tell Mathews if he'll waive we can amend his contract for a cash bonus payment.
We can waive, or send the throw-ins down to Springfield.
Can't hurt to ask.
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PregnantNun
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Edmonton has nothing the Blues want. A couple underachieving prospects in Howard and Savoie is it. No thanks. Even if Binner wanted to go there, I don't see how it happens.
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PregnantNun
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
If I'm Toronto, I laugh that trade out of the room. Woll, Cowan, and a 1st could get a solid haul. It could certainly get better than Schenn and Binner who are both at career lows in trade value.
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PregnantNun
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Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
Thomas and Kyrou for Matthews just gives Toronto our well-known problem in exchange for their franchise player. And what would we get out of it anyway? Auston Matthews playing with Sunny or something? Matthews playing withThomas I'd take. Matthews playing with some 2nd rate losers would amount to nothing.Old_Goat wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 10:02 amThomas and Kryou for Matthews and one or two of their lesser contracts if Toronto needs cap relief.zamadoo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 17:08 pmThey might want to dump Matthews' cap on us.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 16:37 pmMake it a blockbuster then. Give them Schenn, Holloway, Jecho and a 1st for Knies and a cap dump of their choosing.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 15:05 pmI don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.![]()
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They get to play for their hometown team and have great familiarity with the Coach.
Sends message to the rest of the Toronto players. Tell Mathews if he'll waive we can amend his contract for a cash bonus payment.
We can waive, or send the throw-ins down to Springfield.
Can't hurt to ask.
Re: Let the Binner intrigue begin again
You make a very good point, that would be a waste. But I was thinking about playing with Snuggerud, eventually Carbonneau (possibly even at the end of this season?), or Neighbours whom has a build and style of play somewhat similar to Knies, and possibly any of the other prospects whom I am not as familiar with but read positive things on this forum.PregnantNun wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:22 pmThomas and Kyrou for Matthews just gives Toronto our well-known problem in exchange for their franchise player. And what would we get out of it anyway? Auston Matthews playing with Sunny or something? Matthews playing withThomas I'd take. Matthews playing with some 2nd rate losers would amount to nothing.Old_Goat wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 10:02 amThomas and Kryou for Matthews and one or two of their lesser contracts if Toronto needs cap relief.zamadoo wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 17:08 pmThey might want to dump Matthews' cap on us.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 16:37 pmMake it a blockbuster then. Give them Schenn, Holloway, Jecho and a 1st for Knies and a cap dump of their choosing.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 15:05 pmI don't necessarily disagree but Treviling needs to engage ina lot of turd polishing given bare cupboards in prospects and draft picks. And it seems like he is going to be using most of whatever capital he jas to try and snag andersson.TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:29 pmNo thanks. Macelli has been healthy scratched by Berube quite a bit. Hard pass.IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 14:01 pmManagement like Woll. And they have too much money invested in stolarz who hasn't been on the ice with his mysterious upper body ("definitely not a concussion"). They need a top 6 forward and a dman. Think schenn for macelli + as the deal treviling wants to make with armey.skilles wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:10 pmOh I doubt very much they concede this is not their yearTruBlueFan_1970 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 13:01 pmToronto may see this is not their year and do little to nothing. Not being critical of your thought process, just seems like a lot to give up on their part for a team that isn’t showing a lot yet this year. Will be curious if they start to turn it around like FLA has recently.LuvthaBlues wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025 12:49 pm Ek has the following speculation on his site:
To get Binner for Woll, Toronto would also have to give up Nick Robertson or Calle Jarnkrok to make the money work out...more if Army retains.
To get Schenner, a package of a first-round pick (would have to be 2028 as they don't have any until then), a top prospect like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten (who now plays for Boston...lol Ek!) or Ben Danford… with the Leafs possibly needing to throw in an additional sweetener or have another team eat salary.
So it would look something like this:
TOR gets:
Binner
Schenn
STL gets:
Woll
Robertson
Cowan
2028 1st
I'm not so sure the Leafs can afford to further gut their picks or prospects like that.![]()
![]()
They get to play for their hometown team and have great familiarity with the Coach.
Sends message to the rest of the Toronto players. Tell Mathews if he'll waive we can amend his contract for a cash bonus payment.
We can waive, or send the throw-ins down to Springfield.
Can't hurt to ask.