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Sorry about that, I read Flood not Ford. Getting old is especially fun.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:05 pmHe said Ford, not FloodDwaininAztec wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 16:30 pmIf he was that would make him one of the 5 best CFers of all time. Curt is in the 1 or 2 best category.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:44 pm Absolute nonsense. Scott isn't even Curt Ford. Embarrassing headline.
I was waiting on someone mentioning this. Ozzie played on turf which meant more teams relied on hitting through the infield not over the outfield. Victor is very good. If he can get his hitting to the point it keeps him in the lineup, then he just might get into the discussion about which CFers are best.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:18 pmOn one hand it’s true Ozzie got to more balls because of his range but he also got more chances because it was pre launch angle craze and pre it’s okay to strike out 100 plus times a season and pre no need to choke up and try to put the ball in the play with two strikes just swing away like the count is 3-0 craze. But Ozzie was a lot better than Winn no question. Victor Scott catches up to balls that Edmonds wouldn’t get to though and he catches balls on the run Edmonds would have had to dive forGoldfan wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:00 pmGrasshopper, Ozzie Smith had over 800 CH per season his first 6 seasons only interrupted by the strike shortened ‘81 season. To somehow write a sentence and come close to comparing Winn to Ozzie defensively takes some great balls OR perhaps one never watched Ozzie. The RANGE and talent to reach that many CH in season at SS is magical. Winn has shown neither the RANGE nor ability to stay on the field every game like Ozzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 16:39 pmSo you are telling me one player is better than the other based upon the number of ground balls hit to them each season? Yes, it's a serious question.
Ozzie was playing on grass in SD when he recorded the first of those 800 CH seasons with 933 being the top. Winn has a stronger arm, but no where close to the range, agility, and wizardry as the Great SmithDwaininAztec wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:32 pmI was waiting on someone mentioning this. Ozzie played on turf which meant more teams relied on hitting through the infield not over the outfield. Victor is very good. If he can get his hitting to the point it keeps him in the lineup, then he just might get into the discussion about which CFers are best.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:18 pmOn one hand it’s true Ozzie got to more balls because of his range but he also got more chances because it was pre launch angle craze and pre it’s okay to strike out 100 plus times a season and pre no need to choke up and try to put the ball in the play with two strikes just swing away like the count is 3-0 craze. But Ozzie was a lot better than Winn no question. Victor Scott catches up to balls that Edmonds wouldn’t get to though and he catches balls on the run Edmonds would have had to dive forGoldfan wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 17:00 pmGrasshopper, Ozzie Smith had over 800 CH per season his first 6 seasons only interrupted by the strike shortened ‘81 season. To somehow write a sentence and come close to comparing Winn to Ozzie defensively takes some great balls OR perhaps one never watched Ozzie. The RANGE and talent to reach that many CH in season at SS is magical. Winn has shown neither the RANGE nor ability to stay on the field every game like Ozzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 16:39 pmSo you are telling me one player is better than the other based upon the number of ground balls hit to them each season? Yes, it's a serious question.
baseball is a 2 way sport. All glove no hit doesn't result in wins.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 16:04 pm I assume the comparison was defensively only? If so, based on last season, it's an apt comparison.
I said Curt Ford (late 80s 4th OF). Not the great Curt Flood.DwaininAztec wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 16:30 pmIf he was that would make him one of the 5 best CFers of all time. Curt is in the 1 or 2 best category.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:44 pm Absolute nonsense. Scott isn't even Curt Ford. Embarrassing headline.
+1000000000000000000cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:25 pm More propaganda from the Post Dispatch.
Absolute garbage to say that Winn = Ozzie and Scott = Edmonds.
Not even close, Not even if they are combined. Pure Propaganda.
