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ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

stlgolf wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 22:57 pm 2027 - So you’re telling me there’s a chance.

C) Herrera / Crooks
1B) Eldridge Acquired from San Fran
2B) Saggese
SS) Winn
3B) Wetherholt
LF) Montes Acquired from Seattle
CF) Scott II
RF) Walker
DH) Rainiel

SP) Perez Aquired from Miami
SP) Espino Acquired from Cleveland
SP) Liberatore
SP) Fitts
SP) Matthews
SP) Hence

RP) McGreevy
RP) Hjerpe
RP) Mautz
RP) Henderson
RP) Davis
RP) Roby
RP) Clark

CL) Doyle

icon wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 08:57 am Extending little big man Oli? if that's true, this franchise is lost in space, just like the look on his face during games.

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

#3) makes me want to puke

hornetfb52 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:27 am Thinking about the rotation. I know there are no certainties at all with regards to MLB pitching. However, I just don’t see how McGreevy, Leahyand Fitts isn’t at least a small upgrade over Mikolas, Fedde and Pallante. I know they are all unproven as starters, but would be much happier with those three over the others. Just my opinion

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 12:08 pm

hornetfb52 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:27 am Thinking about the rotation. I know there are no certainties at all with regards to MLB pitching. However, I just don’t see how McGreevy, Leahyand Fitts isn’t at least a small upgrade over Mikolas, Fedde and Pallante. I know they are all unproven as starters, but would be much happier with those three over the others. Just my opinion

We also traded Sonny Gray.

Does Liberatore, McGreevy, Fitts, Leahy, and still Pallante (for now) seem like a strong rotation?

I will say heck no!

stlgolf wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 22:57 pm 2027 - So you’re telling me there’s a chance.

C) Herrera / Crooks
1B) Eldridge Acquired from San Fran
2B) Saggese
SS) Winn
3B) Wetherholt
LF) Montes Acquired from Seattle
CF) Scott II
RF) Walker
DH) Rainiel

SP) Perez Aquired from Miami
SP) Espino Acquired from Cleveland
SP) Liberatore
SP) Fitts
SP) Matthews
SP) Hence

RP) McGreevy
RP) Hjerpe
RP) Mautz
RP) Henderson
RP) Davis
RP) Roby
RP) Clark

CL) Doyle

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 12:06 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

#3) makes me want to puke

I know. Unreal isn't it? Surely this can't be right. You could literally roll down your window of your car, toss out a dart, and hit someone who would be better than Marmol.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 13:29 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 12:06 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

#3) makes me want to puke

I know. Unreal isn't it? Surely this can't be right. You could literally roll down your window of your car, toss out a dart, and hit someone who would be better than Marmol.

Crazy

Let the little clown handle this re-build season since he's under contract and BDWJr's not paying him to play golf, then run his a z z outta here after game 162 in 2026.

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 13:56 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 13:29 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 12:06 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

#3) makes me want to puke

I know. Unreal isn't it? Surely this can't be right. You could literally roll down your window of your car, toss out a dart, and hit someone who would be better than Marmol.

Crazy

Let the little clown handle this re-build season since he's under contract and BDWJr's not paying him to play golf, then run his a z z outta here after game 162 in 2026.

Should've been done years ago.
Or never hired in the first place.
I still don't get that.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 14:17 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 13:56 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 13:29 pm

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 12:06 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2025 10:21 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 19:00 pm By John Denton cited in Cardinals.com article
Link : https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... s-coverage

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When told on Wednesday that one baseball executive described MLB trade talks moving at a “glacial” pace, Cardinals president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom furled his face and openly balked.

“That’s not how it has felt to me,” said an admittedly weary Bloom, who kept himself busy throughout the three days of MLB’s Winter Meetings conducting trade talks surrounding Cardinals mainstays Brendan Donovan, JoJo Romero, Nolan Arenado and Willson Contreras. “To some degree, it’s binary -- either you have something or you don’t. Right now, we don’t.”

Winter Meetings presented by CohnReznick: Complete coverage
A Cardinals club in the beginning stages of a full-on rebuild left Orlando on Wednesday without a trade being made, but it certainly wasn’t because of a lack of trying. With the Cardinals already fielding several calls about Donovan and Romero, they were queried by the Mets with interest in Contreras, per a source, after first baseman Pete Alonso left for the Orioles in free agency.

Here is a look at the week that was:




BIGGEST REMAINING NEEDS

1) Find deals for Donovan, Romero, Arenado and Contreras to flood the franchise with promising prospects

Bloom, a Cards consultant the past two years, knows the Cards can’t seriously contend in 2026 even if he brought those players back. Instead, he wants to try and exchange Donovan and Romero at the height of their values for a bevy of promising prospects.

2) Add a veteran starting pitcher to a young staff

As currently constructed, the Cardinals expect Matthew Liberatore, Michael McGreevy, Andre Pallante, Kyle Leahy and Richard Fitts to compete for starting jobs. That group is noticeably light on experience, and they need veterans to eat innings. Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez and Paul Blackburn might fit the club’s needs and budget.

3) Extend Oliver Marmol’s contract beyond 2026

Marmol guided the Cards to the playoffs in 2022, but he and the club have been home for the postseason each of the last three years. However, that doesn’t mean he has done a poor job. Marmol has masterfully handled the bullpen each of the past two seasons, and he helped the Cardinals make it through 2025 without losing a starting pitcher to an arm injury. He and many coaches on his staff have backgrounds in player development and those skills are going to be needed more than ever in 2026 and ‘27.

#3) makes me want to puke

I know. Unreal isn't it? Surely this can't be right. You could literally roll down your window of your car, toss out a dart, and hit someone who would be better than Marmol.

Crazy

Let the little clown handle this re-build season since he's under contract and BDWJr's not paying him to play golf, then run his a z z outta here after game 162 in 2026.

Should've been done years ago.
Or never hired in the first place.
I still don't get that.

RE:
Mo

Third puppet manager in a row just grateful for getting the job.