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Re: "If's" Donny & Nado
Posted: 05 Dec 2025 11:58 am
by Hoosier59
billybaseball wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 10:04 am
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 09:10 am
Normally, I’d agree with you, but the thing is, DeWitt wants to shed payroll! Plain and simple, he doesn’t care what the return is, for the most part.
Dewitt isn't shedding payroll to save money. He's trying to move Arenado because Arenado needs to go. Dewitt paid for half of Gray's contract to get a better prospect. If he was just trying to shed payroll then he wouldn't have ate 20m.
I respectfully disagree, the Cardinals still saved 20 mil by moving Gray, and they only got back lottery picks in return. Yes, Arenado needs to go, but it’s because he isn’t living up to his contract. Dewitt will only eat as much as he has to to move him. He won’t eat more money to get a better prospect for Arenado. It’ll be who will take him and pay the most of his remaining money. That is shedding payroll.
Re: "If's" Donny & Nado
Posted: 05 Dec 2025 15:19 pm
by HorseTrader
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 09:07 am
If we trade Donovan…
And if the only offers we get for Nado are fringe or filler players while we still eat a significant portion of his salary, then I say we keep him—at least until the trade deadline.
At that point, we can still maximize the value of his Gold Glove defense at third base. The best-case scenario is that he rebounds to a respectable level at the plate and becomes an appealing piece for contending teams at the 2026 deadline.
Bottom line: if we’re going to pay Nado anyway and the return is minimal, I’d rather have him anchoring the defense at the hot corner and hope his bat comes back around.
Sorry Arenado hasn't won a GG in the past 3 seasons. He's still good but not what he was. If you are going to trade him partially to allow a place for young player, then do the trade now. No use waiting hoping he will bounce back and you'll save a few million to get the same prospect you can get now.
Re: "If's" Donny & Nado
Posted: 05 Dec 2025 15:23 pm
by Basil Shabazz
HorseTrader wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 09:07 am
If we trade Donovan…
And if the only offers we get for Nado are fringe or filler players while we still eat a significant portion of his salary, then I say we keep him—at least until the trade deadline.
At that point, we can still maximize the value of his Gold Glove defense at third base. The best-case scenario is that he rebounds to a respectable level at the plate and becomes an appealing piece for contending teams at the 2026 deadline.
Bottom line: if we’re going to pay Nado anyway and the return is minimal, I’d rather have him anchoring the defense at the hot corner and hope his bat comes back around.
Sorry Arenado hasn't won a GG in the past 3 seasons. He's still good but not what he was. If you are going to trade him partially to allow a place for young player, then do the trade now. No use waiting hoping he will bounce back and you'll save a few million to get the same prospect you can get now.
He is still an elite 3B gloveman regardless of hardware.
Re: "If's" Donny & Nado
Posted: 05 Dec 2025 15:32 pm
by Punkk6
A rebuilding team don't need an elite third baseman
Re: "If's" Donny & Nado
Posted: 05 Dec 2025 15:35 pm
by Basil Shabazz
Punkk6 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:32 pm
A rebuilding team don't need an elite third baseman
Agreed, but if the return is peanuts and you still have to pay $15m+ of his salary, then he may be more valuable holding onto until the trade deadline.