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Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 30 Nov 2025 22:09 pm
by 12xu
Let 'em all in. Once the HOF voted Ortiz, Pudge, and Piazza in, they have no reason to keep any other roid users out. Sosa, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Clemens, etc. should all be admitted and apologized to by MLB for being unfair to them for all these years.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 30 Nov 2025 23:22 pm
by Absolut
Poojols wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 21:10 pm
Absolut wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 20:49 pm
Sure. They let Ortiz in
Could just let them all in and anyone who has tested positive for steroids or whatever should have some type of note on it. Who cares anymore...
Media likes Ortiz so he got in. Total hypocrisy
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 00:09 am
by Poojols
Absolut wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 23:22 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 21:10 pm
Absolut wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 20:49 pm
Sure. They let Ortiz in
Could just let them all in and anyone who has tested positive for steroids or whatever should have some type of note on it. Who cares anymore...
Media likes Ortiz so he got in. Total hypocrisy
Yeah it's pretty lame. Come one come all...
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 07:05 am
by makesnosense
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025 20:17 pm
No to the roid boys. It's a disgrace that Ortiz got in.
It is a disgrace only that he got in before Bonds. After all Bonds is the greatest hitter of his generation.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
by sikeston bulldog2
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:02 am
by BobbyOrr
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Roid user-corked bat user-selfish teaammate-teammates hated him. Would never move from one spot in RF. Would stand in the exact same spot for every single batter. Beat his wife.
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THAT. ^^^^^
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:31 am
by nighthawk
Yes, in the lip-synch wing of the HOF.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:33 am
by rockondlouie
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:14 am
by moose-and-squirrel
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
it's about the muscle twitch.. allows batters to wait longer and recognize pitches better (adderal as well). there's a reason you couldn't get a pitch by Bonds after he started juicing
who was that little CF'er that all of a sudden became a 50hr guy? can't remember his name. all the proof ya need tho
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:18 am
by sikeston bulldog2
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
it's about the muscle twitch.. allows batters to wait longer and recognize pitches better (adderal as well). there's a reason you couldn't get a pitch by Bonds after he started juicing
who was that little CF'er that all of a sudden became a 50hr guy? can't remember his name. all the proof ya need tho
Thanx. I also thought Bonds developed a hitting window so tight that contributed to his success plus the huge amount of natural walks. You right. In order to master such a tight space, one must have incredible pitch recognition and immediate location skills.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:22 am
by OldRed
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
it's about the muscle twitch.. allows batters to wait longer and recognize pitches better (adderal as well). there's a reason you couldn't get a pitch by Bonds after he started juicing
who was that little CF'er that all of a sudden became a 50hr guy? can't remember his name. all the proof ya need tho
Brady Anderson?
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 10:28 am
by 11WSChamps
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
If Im not mistaken McGwire said it allowed him to "recover" quicker staying strong. He had some injuries early in his career and he and Canseco got on the road train to take a ride on the Reading .
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 11:38 am
by C-Unit
11WSChamps wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 10:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 07:50 am
I’m still muffed. Face first. Nose deep.
I’m a pretty good ball player. Other than strength thus power, how do steroids help hit a major leagues pitch.
How does it help with contact rate. Exit velocity. Barrel rate. Pitch recognition. I still don’t see the connection.
Seems only thing measured is- more homeruns. Not doubles, or singles, just the homeruns.
You would think if they hit harder and further, more line drives would rip off defenses gloves; pop ups to hit roofs, tape measure home runs.
My thoughts are on the actual batted balls.
If Im not mistaken McGwire said it allowed him to "recover" quicker staying strong. He had some injuries early in his career and he and Canseco got on the road train to take a ride on the Reading .
McGwire is an example of a guy whose career might have been over if it weren't for PEDs.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 12:10 pm
by OldRed
Time has passed and they deserve their due. Yes, that means Bonds, Clemons and others.
They made the game exciting when the game needed it.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 12:25 pm
by 11WSChamps
OldRed wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 12:10 pm
Time has passed and they deserve their due. Yes, that means Bonds, Clemons and others.
They made the game exciting when the game needed it.
They got their due and plenty of money when they cheated to get it.
If they cared about a legacy they should have thought of that before juicing.
Re: Sammy Sosa . . . HOF?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 12:26 pm
by 11WSChamps
OldRed wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 12:10 pm
Time has passed and they deserve their due. Yes, that means Bonds, Clemons and others.
They made the game exciting when the game needed it.
They got their due and plenty of money when they cheated to get it.
If they cared about a legacy they should have thought of that before juicing.