What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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Re: What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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I doubt Bloom is focused on what to ask for. He's listening to what is being offered at this point. There'll be time to refine his ask.
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Hopefully listening to multiple offers and playing off them. He should be seeking an MLB ready starting pitcher or a good prospect bat.
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I would hope he's asking for another near "Liam Doyle" level SP prospect as the centerpiece of any trade.
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It has to be better than the Gray trade, and that was pretty good. If it's player for player I'm thinking a teams top pitching prospect is about right.
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I cruised over to btv and while I'm not a member, they had a simulated trade on the cover page of Rickey Tiedman, JoJo Parker, and Johnny King for Donovan. Thats the jays 2,4,5 prospects. A slight overpay in value. I don't know anything more than what you can read. Tiedman had tj before last season otherwise sounds a lot like Clarke. Parker is a ss likely to play 2nd or 3rd. Is this the type return we can expect? Or should we expect a player with a higher floor than Clatke and Tiedman?
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Young major league starter w/multiple years of control and (minimum) upside to being a #2

or

AA/AAA starting pitcher with (minimum) #2 upside and ready to make the leap to MLB no later than 2027.
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Hopefully he is asking for the moon, and will not accept much less.
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craviduce wrote: 29 Nov 2025 20:52 pm Top tier prospect, lottery ticket and/or starting pitcher with some control (can't be picky there, so maybe 1 or 2 years left in Arb), and a Competitive Balance pick in the 2026 draft...if the team we trade with doesn't have a CBP, then $200K in IFA bonus allotment.

Maybe I'm being too greedy? But that seems on par for Donovan's BTV. PLease, correct me if I'm wrong....too much/too little.

edit ~ the starting pitcher won't be a great one...4.00-4.50 ERA, but can hurl 150 plus innings.
When I first started reading this thread I had the same basic thought, get a throw in pitcher on the deal. Is that really a good way to go? You can pick up a Kirk GIbson/Lance Lynn type for nothing just about anytime to fill that spot. So maybe better to upgrade the prospect or international money. Either way works.
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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:57 am Young major league starter w/multiple years of control and (minimum) upside to being a #2

or

AA/AAA starting pitcher with (minimum) #2 upside and ready to make the leap to MLB no later than 2027.
Evidently, craviduce claims Donovan won't bring that kind of a starting pitcher. I say, it depends on the number of teams bidding for him. The more I read about all of the teams lining up for a chance to trade for Donovan. It's seems this is a rare opportunity to stack the shelf by filling needs with quality players. Ex. a high level starting pitcher with some years of team control and a RH hitting power hitter. Actually, of LH power hitter would do if he is/could be a legit MOTO hitter.
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Re: What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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Shady wrote: 30 Nov 2025 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:57 am Young major league starter w/multiple years of control and (minimum) upside to being a #2

or

AA/AAA starting pitcher with (minimum) #2 upside and ready to make the leap to MLB no later than 2027.
Evidently, craviduce claims Donovan won't bring that kind of a starting pitcher. I say, it depends on the number of teams bidding for him. The more I read about all of the teams lining up for a chance to trade for Donovan. It's seems this is a rare opportunity to stack the shelf by filling needs with quality players. Ex. a high level starting pitcher with some years of team control and a RH hitting power hitter. Actually, of LH power hitter would do if he is/could be a legit MOTO hitter.
And it's very possible Bloom will have to add (perhaps a catcher?) to achieve that goal.

A bidding war will likely ensue given Donny is in demand by almost all contenders.
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Re: What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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Specifically, I'd be asking the Mets about Nolan McLean and be willing to add more (Romero, Ixan Henderson, Pages/Crooks - something) with Donovan to make it happen.
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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Nov 2025 10:28 am
Shady wrote: 30 Nov 2025 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:57 am Young major league starter w/multiple years of control and (minimum) upside to being a #2

or

AA/AAA starting pitcher with (minimum) #2 upside and ready to make the leap to MLB no later than 2027.
Evidently, craviduce claims Donovan won't bring that kind of a starting pitcher. I say, it depends on the number of teams bidding for him. The more I read about all of the teams lining up for a chance to trade for Donovan. It's seems this is a rare opportunity to stack the shelf by filling needs with quality players. Ex. a high level starting pitcher with some years of team control and a RH hitting power hitter. Actually, of LH power hitter would do if he is/could be a legit MOTO hitter.
And it's very possible Bloom will have to add (perhaps a catcher?) to achieve that goal.

A bidding war will likely ensue given Donny is in demand by almost all contenders.
That's a good idea regarding possibly adding a catcher (Catdinals have an abundance) to enhance a deal for something really special in a Donovan deal.
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12xu wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:06 am Hopefully he is asking for the moon, and will not accept much less.
If he asks too much….potential deals fall through and the club gets nothing

and next year his value is even less…

His trade value will never be higher…..it would be nice to get more than a missed opportunity..
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45s wrote: 30 Nov 2025 11:04 am
12xu wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:06 am Hopefully he is asking for the moon, and will not accept much less.
If he asks too much….potential deals fall through and the club gets nothing

and next year his value is even less…

His trade value will never be higher…..it would be nice to get more than a missed opportunity..
Have you ever heard the song- The Zoo -Scorpions.
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Re: What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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ramfandan wrote: 29 Nov 2025 19:58 pm For sure (as all GM's do ) , Bloom is playing the game when asked about Donovan . The standard line would be 'well , it would take a substantial return to give up Donovan but I am willing to listen . If I get his value, I would consider it . Sure !

So then in general terms , the teams would be asking Bloom so what areas are you seeking ? (not specific names initially but pitchers vs position players.. major leaguers / prospects )

If you were a fly on Bloom's wall , what are you thinking Bloom is telling them ?
It was a mistake to leak to a reporter that he wanted to trade Donovan. Teams are going to lowball him thinking he is desperate. Now he's walking it back saying he might keep Donovan if he doesn't get enough.
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Re: What do you think Bloom is asking for Donovan ?

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 30 Nov 2025 11:06 am
45s wrote: 30 Nov 2025 11:04 am
12xu wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:06 am Hopefully he is asking for the moon, and will not accept much less.
If he asks too much….potential deals fall through and the club gets nothing

and next year his value is even less…

His trade value will never be higher…..it would be nice to get more than a missed opportunity..
Have you ever heard the song- The Zoo -Scorpions.
Haven’t had the pleasure…
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