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Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 17:16 pm
by 82birds
good for him

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 17:18 pm
by TraveledLessRoad
I'm happy for him. Always seemed like a good dude and he was fantastic (most of the time) for us. Glad he got his pay day!

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 18:25 pm
by OldRed
kyace wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:35 pm Two years $28 million with Baltimore
Good for him. He may be a real bargain.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 18:26 pm
by OldRed
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:43 pm Orioles returning to the St. Louis Browns with all these ex-St. Louis players.
Cardinals may be returning to the St. Louis Browns. Check the ownership.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 18:31 pm
by Pura Vida
kyace wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:35 pm Two years $28 million with Baltimore
Happy for him and hope he regains form in 26!

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 18:32 pm
by brock118
OldRed wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:43 pm Orioles returning to the St. Louis Browns with all these ex-St. Louis players.
Cardinals may be returning to the St. Louis Browns. Check the ownership.
You're right Red. Payroll is going to be slashed lower than all these people think.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 20:47 pm
by renostl
zuck698 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:09 pm I never thought he would get much dough the way last year ended for him. I wish him luck.
Wouldn't he be the highest paid Cardinals
pitcher with that contract?

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 20:51 pm
by zuck698
renostl wrote: 29 Nov 2025 20:47 pm
zuck698 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:09 pm I never thought he would get much dough the way last year ended for him. I wish him luck.
Wouldn't he be the highest paid Cardinals
pitcher with that contract?
Yes he would, now that Gray is gone.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 21:22 pm
by Stlcardsblues
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:32 pm
OldRed wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:43 pm Orioles returning to the St. Louis Browns with all these ex-St. Louis players.
Cardinals may be returning to the St. Louis Browns. Check the ownership.
You're right Red. Payroll is going to be slashed lower than all these people think.
Who is shocked payroll is being slashed?

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 22:06 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Stlcardsblues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 21:22 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:32 pm
OldRed wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:43 pm Orioles returning to the St. Louis Browns with all these ex-St. Louis players.
Cardinals may be returning to the St. Louis Browns. Check the ownership.
You're right Red. Payroll is going to be slashed lower than all these people think.
Who is shocked payroll is being slashed?
I think he will slash payroll then spend the money on signings I think it will end up about the same as last season people that think that they are just slashing payroll are going to be surprised, he has a budget if he trades all the big dollar players he can sign a bunch of smaller budget players that’s my theory

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 22:08 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
Stlcardsblues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 21:22 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:32 pm
OldRed wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:26 pm
brock118 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:43 pm Orioles returning to the St. Louis Browns with all these ex-St. Louis players.
Cardinals may be returning to the St. Louis Browns. Check the ownership.
You're right Red. Payroll is going to be slashed lower than all these people think.
Who is shocked payroll is being slashed?
Slashed for now, but Bloom has lots of innings to cover in 2026. He is not likely trading for all that coverage. He is trading to cover innings in 2027 and 2028. He will have to spend some $$$ to cover those 2026 innings with some short term vet contracts. He’s already said that the 2026 payroll will be similar to 2025.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 22:40 pm
by Red7
Are people seriously upset that the Cardinals didn’t bring Helsley back for $14 million per???

Re: Helsley

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 22:49 pm
by Bushiro
ramfandan wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:15 pm Helsley was tipping his pitches . Mets saw Phillies swinging at fastballs but taking on sliders. Mendoza knew Phillies knew something Mets were not aware of yet.
Mets finally realized after hours of video work that Heldley had a slight tick with hid elbows when throwing one pitch vs the other.
Helsley then had some good innings after realizing that.
Without a doubt he was...

Re: Helsley

Posted: 30 Nov 2025 00:21 am
by Cardinals4Life
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:57 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:39 pm
kyace wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:35 pm Two years $28 million with Baltimore
That's a steal for Baltimore.
No it isn’t
Why not?

Re: Helsley

Posted: 30 Nov 2025 07:43 am
by Jatalk
Red7 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 22:40 pm Are people seriously upset that the Cardinals didn’t bring Helsley back for $14 million per???
I’m not. But I’m not surprised he got that much. Everything you could read indicated he was in the $15 million dollar range yet the genius posters in here thought he would get $8 million or less, half his value.

As for the Cardinals he was too expensive considering all their needs and rebuild status.

Re: Helsley

Posted: 30 Nov 2025 17:07 pm
by BrummerStealsHome
Helsley signs with the St. Louis Browns. Nice.

He'll be coming to play in Sportsman's Park Busch III in late August.