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Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 20:45 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 19:48 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 10:10 am It is not over until it is over. And one is now a first baseman and not a catcher in which they were looking for.

Atlanta: they would love to do a do over and keep William Conteras.
Cardinals: though Willson is now at 1b, they are probably very happy they didn’t TRADE prospects for SM, and have an oft-injured catcher for three more years blocking catching prospects. And Willson moved to 1b partially for that reason and has been a team player since day one.

Now can Murphy be a stud the next 3-4 years in ATL? Sure. But even if he is, I doubt the cards are losing sleep over it.

Lastly, Mo has a spotty track record with trades. Maybe it’s best we didn’t trade for SM with Mo still at the helm…

I mostly agree with you, but just to play Devils advocate, who could Mo have traded after 2022 that we would actually miss at this point? Walker? Hjerpe? Noot?

ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 19:13 pm

Melville wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 17:46 pm I was the ONLY person on the forum at the time who argued against trading for Murphy and for signing Contreras.
Every person without exception disagreed with me at the time.
Obviously, I was correct.

Hey! Don’t forget about me!

mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2025 10:13 am Considering that the Brewers only gave up Esteury "You can't steal first base" Ruiz (0.7 fWAR in four ML seasons) and got William Contreras, Joel Payamps, and Justin Yeager, the Cardinals should have been in the middle of that rather than signing the other Contreras.

I still do not know what the A's thought they were doing there.