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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:40 am
by alw80
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:36 am
Source confirms: Sonny Gray traded from Cardinals to Red Sox. Contract being reworked to one-year plus mutual option. 2026 salary will be $31M, mutual option buyout of $10M. Gray essentially getting $41M for one year.
Still no word yet on the Cards return.
$41M for one season of Gray?

Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:40 am
by Goldfan
I phoned Bloom last night after my rantings on CT
You’re Welcome!!!!
“The WS was just a couple weeks ago”……..

Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:41 am
by bccardsfan
Well, Bloom is certainly not Paralyzed Like Mo.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:41 am
by Voldemort
I appreciated Sonny Gray's contributions. I don't blame him for wanting to jump out of a sinking ship. 41 million to top that, so good for him. I don't understand how we are better when we trade off a starting pitcher who produced much more than expected on a transitioning team.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:41 am
by hewie9
Any chance the cards would get Witherspoon in return?
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:41 am
by cardinalsfever44
Brandon Clarke is the Red Sox #5 propect:
Scouting grades: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 45 | Slider: 70 | Changeup: 40 | Control: 45 | Overall: 50
Clarke bounced back from Tommy John surgery as a junior to become Virginia's best prep pitching prospect in 2021. He developed thoracic issues while coming back from his elbow reconstruction, so he redshirted at Alabama in 2022 and worked just 3 2/3 innings the following year at the State JC of Florida (Manatee-Sarasota). He became the best junior college prospect in the 2024 Draft, leading Florida juco pitchers with 107 strikeouts in 74 1/3 frames last spring and impressing at the MLB Draft Combine before signing with the Red Sox for a below-slot $400,000 as a fifth-rounder.
Clarke throws harder than most lefty starters, sitting at 95-98 mph and reaching 100, though his fastball features more downhill plane than riding or running action. He has unveiled a devastating slider this season, with the pitch operating in the upper 80s and touching 91 mph with huge sweep as well as depth. He has relieved heavily on his heater and slide piece, rarely using an upper-70s curveball and an upper-80s changeup with some mild fade, both of which he struggles to land for strikes.
Still very much a work in progress, Clarke stands out more with his athleticism and quick arm than his polish. He gets down the mound well, creating a low release height with plenty of extension, but he lacks a smooth delivery and currently doesn't repeat it easily enough to have more than fringy control. He comes with a high ceiling and a good deal of reliever risk, making him an intriguing development project.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:42 am
by JohnnyMO
I would guess not any of Boston's top 10 prospects. A top 20 prospect and a lottery ticket sounds about right. Anything more than that would be a big win for Bloom. Can't wait to find out.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:44 am
by cardinalsfever44
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:42 am
I would guess not any of Boston's top 10 prospects. A top 20 prospect and a lottery ticket sounds about right. Anything more than that would be a big win for Bloom. Can't wait to find out.
We got their #5 prospect and another pitcher.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:45 am
by sikeston bulldog2
So what does this instantly tell us. One, they will waive no trades. Two, see ya Willy. Three, staff will be young guns headed by Libby, four, anyone is available.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:45 am
by Goldfan
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:45 am
by imyourhuckleberry
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:39 am
brock118 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:36 am
So much for geographic location for Sonny I guess.
Yes. Between hometown discounts and geographical locations, hard to distinguish which of the two is a greater myth.
Money is the only thing that isn't a myth.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:46 am
by icon
Clarke is 22, Fitts turns 26 next month.
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:46 am
by JohnnyMO
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:44 am
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:42 am
I would guess not any of Boston's top 10 prospects. A top 20 prospect and a lottery ticket sounds about right. Anything more than that would be a big win for Bloom. Can't wait to find out.
We got their #5 prospect and another pitcher.
If that turns out to be legit that's a very good deal for St. Louis. Major props to Bloom. Seems like an overpay for Boston. Unless we sent them a ton of cash?
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:47 am
by BrockFloodMaris
dugoutrex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:39 am
high em starts the tear down
??!!
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:47 am
by mattmitchl44
They got Fitts and starts.

Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 10:48 am
by sikeston bulldog2
imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:45 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:39 am
brock118 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 10:36 am
So much for geographic location for Sonny I guess.
Yes. Between hometown discounts and geographical locations, hard to distinguish which of the two is a greater myth.
Money is the only thing that isn't a myth.
Money. Give it back. Keep your hands off my stack.