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Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 17:28 pm
by Melville
The Cardinals won't consider that because it does not really fit with what they envision.
That said, it is an interesting article and certainly something some teams might consider.
After all, more and more teams are simply asking starters to cover only 5 innings.
Converting a reliever - particularly one with Hesley's history (very effective minor league starter), frame (built like a starter, certainly), and 3-pitch arsenal (he can throw a curveball) - might be worth the risk.
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 17:54 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
They should make him 2-way like Ohtani and also put him at cleanup. He can close on his off days too! Him and Burly at #3 would be unstoppable!
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
by hullie
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 16:47 pm
That is a dumb (donkey) thing that Johnny numb nuts would've tried. Bloom is smarter than Mo.
You need a therapist?
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 19:56 pm
by slimjay63801
No, they couldn't.
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 20:17 pm
by Mort Gage
Let's see, MSN linking to Redbird Rants clickbait trash. Keep the awesome stuff coming, Shady.
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 21:22 pm
by scoutyjones2
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 17:54 pm
They should make him 2-way like Ohtani and also put him at cleanup. He can close on his off days too! Him and Burly at #3 would be unstoppable!
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 21:27 pm
by sdaltons
Good lord. No. You are allowed to apply a little critical thinking.
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 23 Nov 2025 22:17 pm
by JuanAgosto
hullie wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 16:47 pm
That is a dumb (donkey) thing that Johnny numb nuts would've tried. Bloom is smarter than Mo.
You need a therapist?
For what?
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 24 Nov 2025 08:55 am
by rockondlouie
With his injury history I doubt Helsley could make it the ASG w/o hitting the IL.
Pass
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 24 Nov 2025 08:57 am
by craviduce
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Nov 2025 08:55 am
With his injury history I doubt Helsley could make it the ASG w/o hitting the IL.
Pass
and if he did make it, he'd be exhausted/spent b/c he hadn't pitched that amount of innings in 8 years. We need innings, the OP is inane....we don't need a guy only able to pitch 3-4 innings per outing, then shut down periodically throughout the year because of fatigue.
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 24 Nov 2025 09:02 am
by rockondlouie
craviduce wrote: ↑24 Nov 2025 08:57 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Nov 2025 08:55 am
With his injury history I doubt Helsley could make it the ASG w/o hitting the IL.
Pass
and if he did make it, he'd be exhausted/spent b/c he hadn't pitched that amount of innings in 8 years. We need innings, the OP is inane....we don't need a guy only able to pitch 3-4 innings per outing, then shut down periodically throughout the year because of fatigue.
K. Leahy is going to be a long shot to make it as a starter but at least he's got a shot, Helsley is a Hail Mary/Moon Shot!
Re: Could Cardinals bring Helsley back as a starting pitcher?
Posted: 24 Nov 2025 10:41 am
by riff raff
hullie wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 16:47 pm
That is a dumb (donkey) thing that Johnny numb nuts would've tried. Bloom is smarter than Mo.
You need a therapist?
Proctologist