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Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 13:54 pm
by 45s
TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 13:50 pm
What would be sad is if Nolan is finally traded and we make a good long run in the playoffs. I think there is a much better chance of that happening then many here in the forum think. A full year of Herrera, Contreras, Burelson, Weatherholt and a some progression from Gorman, Walker and Scott and we could get much better pretty quick with a couple good adds.
If the club were to make a run…..one of the reasons would be that he has been traded…
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 14:12 pm
by JuanAgosto
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 00:32 am
Arenado probably appreciates someone being open and honest. I doubt Mozeliak ever was. He probably told Arenado a pile of b.s. to get him to stay in 2023. Then the idiot attempted to trade him to a team that wasn't on the list of agreeable destinations. What a doless putz.
Nado controlled the narrative. He had his only move and he (upset) it away
He has the NTC and had a selective list. It backfired on him and now he's capitulating in hope being in the playoffs where he can suck, again. 1.3 WAR. and an sad 87 OPS + that drops year over year...
That's gonna be hard to move
I imagine DeWitt will be eating a lot of that contract to move him.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 14:15 pm
by Melville
TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 13:50 pm
What would be sad is if Nolan is finally traded and we make a good long run in the playoffs. I think there is a much better chance of that happening then many here in the forum think. A full year of Herrera, Contreras, Burelson, Weatherholt and a some progression from Gorman, Walker and Scott and we could get much better pretty quick with a couple good adds.
Spot.
On.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 16:20 pm
by Goldfan
At this point I could give 2 chits what NA has to say on this matter or how cooperative he is.
Next thing I want to hear is how much BDW is eating so he’s gone. Done…..Over
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 19:02 pm
by Jatalk
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
It doesn’t make up for it in my book. You are correct.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 19:06 pm
by Carp4Cy
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 00:32 am
Arenado probably appreciates someone being open and honest. I doubt Mozeliak ever was. He probably told Arenado a pile of b.s. to get him to stay in 2023. Then the idiot attempted to trade him to a team that wasn't on the list of agreeable destinations. What a doless putz.
Nado controlled the narrative. He had his only move and he (upset) it away
He has the NTC and had a selective list. It backfired on him and now he's capitulating in hope being in the playoffs where he can suck, again. 1.3 WAR. and an sad 87 OPS + that drops year over year...
That's gonna be hard to move
Um Houston played as many playoff games as the Cardinals in 2025. He made the right call.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 20:28 pm
by scoutyjones2
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 19:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 00:32 am
Arenado probably appreciates someone being open and honest. I doubt Mozeliak ever was. He probably told Arenado a pile of b.s. to get him to stay in 2023. Then the idiot attempted to trade him to a team that wasn't on the list of agreeable destinations. What a doless putz.
Nado controlled the narrative. He had his only move and he (upset) it away
He has the NTC and had a selective list. It backfired on him and now he's capitulating in hope being in the playoffs where he can suck, again. 1.3 WAR. and an sad 87 OPS + that drops year over year...
That's gonna be hard to move
Um Houston played as many playoff games as the Cardinals in 2025. He made the right call.
No he didn't. And he knows it
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 20:44 pm
by Clubmaker2
as if one would say bad things about the merchandise being peddled....
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 16 Nov 2025 20:47 pm
by Ozziesfan41
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 20:28 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 19:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 00:32 am
Arenado probably appreciates someone being open and honest. I doubt Mozeliak ever was. He probably told Arenado a pile of b.s. to get him to stay in 2023. Then the idiot attempted to trade him to a team that wasn't on the list of agreeable destinations. What a doless putz.
Nado controlled the narrative. He had his only move and he (upset) it away
He has the NTC and had a selective list. It backfired on him and now he's capitulating in hope being in the playoffs where he can suck, again. 1.3 WAR. and an sad 87 OPS + that drops year over year...
That's gonna be hard to move
Um Houston played as many playoff games as the Cardinals in 2025. He made the right call.
No he didn't. And he knows it
Why the astros didn’t make the playoffs either and now he may get traded to a team who can win something
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 10:14 am
by Carp4Cy
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 20:47 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 20:28 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 19:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 00:32 am
Arenado probably appreciates someone being open and honest. I doubt Mozeliak ever was. He probably told Arenado a pile of b.s. to get him to stay in 2023. Then the idiot attempted to trade him to a team that wasn't on the list of agreeable destinations. What a doless putz.
Nado controlled the narrative. He had his only move and he (upset) it away
He has the NTC and had a selective list. It backfired on him and now he's capitulating in hope being in the playoffs where he can suck, again. 1.3 WAR. and an sad 87 OPS + that drops year over year...
That's gonna be hard to move
Um Houston played as many playoff games as the Cardinals in 2025. He made the right call.
No he didn't. And he knows it
Why the astros didn’t make the playoffs either and now he may get traded to a team who can win something
Only IF one of those teams who will win wants him. That was the rub in 2024 - only the Astros were interested and they aren't winners. It could happen again this year.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 10:46 am
by rockondlouie
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but
he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
Huh?
It was the Cardinals who gave him the NTC, why did he "screw them over" because he didn't want to go to the stros' after they let Tucker go?
Blame Mo for giving him the NTC, not NADO for exercising his RIGHT to say "no" w/o being the bad guy.
Extending the number of teams he'd now accept a trade to does indeed HELP the Cardinals out.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 15:32 pm
by mattmitchl44
rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:46 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but
he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
Huh?
It was the Cardinals who gave him the NTC, why did he "screw them over" because he didn't want to go to the stros' after they let Tucker go?
Blame Mo for giving him the NTC, not NADO for exercising his RIGHT to say "no" w/o being the bad guy.
Extending the number of teams he'd now accept a trade to does indeed HELP the Cardinals out.
Again, he had every right to exercise his NTC.
However, the Cardinals almost certainly would have gotten a better return for him coming off his 2024 season than his 2025 season. So exercising his NTC screwed the Cardinals in getting a return that would help the team.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 16:29 pm
by ramfandan
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:32 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:46 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but
he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
Huh?
It was the Cardinals who gave him the NTC, why did he "screw them over" because he didn't want to go to the stros' after they let Tucker go?
Blame Mo for giving him the NTC, not NADO for exercising his RIGHT to say "no" w/o being the bad guy.
Extending the number of teams he'd now accept a trade to does indeed HELP the Cardinals out.
Again, he had every right to exercise his NTC.
However, the Cardinals almost certainly would have gotten a better return for him coming off his 2024 season than his 2025 season. So exercising his NTC screwed the Cardinals in getting a return that would help the team.
Well , if exercising his option screwed the Cardinals , one could argue an 'over the hill' Waino not retiring and returning so he could get his 200th win with a terrible ERA screwed the team too... add in Carpenter for accepting an extension when he knew he was over the hill too ..that screwed the team too... many cases that was just two of them.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 16:41 pm
by mattmitchl44
ramfandan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:29 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:32 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:46 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but
he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
Huh?
It was the Cardinals who gave him the NTC, why did he "screw them over" because he didn't want to go to the stros' after they let Tucker go?
Blame Mo for giving him the NTC, not NADO for exercising his RIGHT to say "no" w/o being the bad guy.
Extending the number of teams he'd now accept a trade to does indeed HELP the Cardinals out.
Again, he had every right to exercise his NTC.
However, the Cardinals almost certainly would have gotten a better return for him coming off his 2024 season than his 2025 season. So exercising his NTC screwed the Cardinals in getting a return that would help the team.
Well , if exercising his option screwed the Cardinals , one could argue an 'over the hill' Waino not retiring and returning so he could get his 200th win with a terrible ERA screwed the team too... add in Carpenter for accepting an extension when he knew he was over the hill too ..that screwed the team too... many cases that was just two of them.
The obvious difference is that the Cardinals were actively trying to get rid of Arenado, had a deal to do so, and he blocked it. That is a direct FU.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 20:14 pm
by Mr.Snuggleupagus
TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 13:50 pm
What would be sad is if Nolan is finally traded and we make a good long run in the playoffs. I think there is a much better chance of that happening then many here in the forum think. A full year of Herrera, Contreras, Burelson, Weatherholt and a some progression from Gorman, Walker and Scott and we could get much better pretty quick with a couple good adds.
You're living in fantasyland hijo.
Re: Bloom says Arenado has been a 'total pro' in trade discussions
Posted: 17 Nov 2025 21:01 pm
by 45s
ramfandan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:29 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:32 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:46 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025 12:16 pm
Arenado had every right to exercise his NTC last year, but
he certainly screwed the Cardinals over in the process. I don't think playing nice now really makes up for it.
Huh?
It was the Cardinals who gave him the NTC, why did he "screw them over" because he didn't want to go to the stros' after they let Tucker go?
Blame Mo for giving him the NTC, not NADO for exercising his RIGHT to say "no" w/o being the bad guy.
Extending the number of teams he'd now accept a trade to does indeed HELP the Cardinals out.
Again, he had every right to exercise his NTC.
However, the Cardinals almost certainly would have gotten a better return for him coming off his 2024 season than his 2025 season. So exercising his NTC screwed the Cardinals in getting a return that would help the team.
Well , if exercising his option screwed the Cardinals , one could argue an 'over the hill' Waino not retiring and returning so he could get his 200th win with a terrible ERA screwed the team too... add in Carpenter for accepting an extension when he knew he was over the hill too ..that screwed the team too... many cases that was just two of them.
Generally agree with the premise of your comments..
But wainwright did not screw them….that disaster was on the club..
the club could have, and certainly should have…said no thanks..chase that personal stat somewhere else..
Thanks and C ya later..