Re: OT: Warren Spahn
Posted: 15 Nov 2025 11:58 am
sj2 just wants to (buzz) because someone started an OT thread, which is only slightly different from his usual take of wanting to (buzz) because someone made a post in an existing thread. 
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You sound like a person that has no history of pitchers hitting or when they managed a minor league team and who they developed. Get a life and do some research before making such stupid comments.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:40 amLMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horribleOldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:35 amWith a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:58 amHow is that good?OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:
35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP
17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.
And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.![]()
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter?
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I was fortunate to get his autograph when he was the manager of the Tulsa Oilers, circa 1970. A very nice gentleman.OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 09:32 amYes, he was. He even gave my wife a kiss on the check when we left.redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 08:36 am Warren Spahn is often overlooked as one of the greats. Not only was he a great pitcher, but a great American having served in the military which interrupted his early career. None the less , he went on to to win 363 games. Along the way , he had lost some zip on his fastball , but in a sense reinvented himself and still was a 20 game winner. I had the pleasure of meeting him and having a nice conversation. He was also fan friendly.
Another thing, he helped develop some good pitchers for the Cardinals when he was manager of the Tulsa minor league team.
Ha, well there's also Koufax
You won't back up your post by telling us who he developed. Laughable because you can't name any...OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 12:38 pmYou sound like a person that has no history of pitchers hitting or when they managed a minor league team and who they developed. Get a life and do some research before making such stupid comments.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:40 amLMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horribleOldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:35 amWith a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:58 amHow is that good?OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:
35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP
17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.
And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.![]()
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter?
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You have to be the dumbest poster on this forum who can do their own research.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 15:42 pmYou won't back up your post by telling us who he developed. Laughable because you can't name any...OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 12:38 pmYou sound like a person that has no history of pitchers hitting or when they managed a minor league team and who they developed. Get a life and do some research before making such stupid comments.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:40 amLMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horribleOldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:35 amWith a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:58 amHow is that good?OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:
35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP
17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.
And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.![]()
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter?
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And nobody thinks he was a pretty good hitter![]()
The only thing that I am convinced of is that you are the biggest as-$ on this forum.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:40 amLMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horribleOldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 11:35 amWith a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:58 amHow is that good?OldRed wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:
35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP
17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.
And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.
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Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter?
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Not primarily a screwball thrower - those who did usually had short careers. But Spahn was a cerebral pitcher, in that he “kept ‘em guessing”. He mastered a variety of pitches, and could throw them for strikes. In other words, he knew how to pitch, and art form that many of today’s minor leaguers no longer learn, as they’re just told to blow ‘em away with speed.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:49 am Spahn was not a flame thrower. I believe he threw a screwball. Kept hitters off balance. He coached in the Cards system. Coached Simmons and Reuss at Tulsa (AAA) I'm pretty sure. They didn't care for him.
Sounds like my first girlfriend's traits... she 'screwed' me over many times and 'kept me guessing' whether she was just a big tease or not .The Nard wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 19:06 pmNot primarily a screwball thrower - those who did usually had short careers. But Spahn was a cerebral pitcher, in that he “kept ‘em guessing”. He mastered a variety of pitches, and could throw them for strikes. In other words, he knew how to pitch, and art form that many of today’s minor leaguers no longer learn, as they’re just told to blow ‘em away with speed.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2025 10:49 am Spahn was not a flame thrower. I believe he threw a screwball. Kept hitters off balance. He coached in the Cards system. Coached Simmons and Reuss at Tulsa (AAA) I'm pretty sure. They didn't care for him.