Mailloux to Springfield

[Hazelwood72]

Member when Monty said once Mailloux got back into the lineup, he wouldn’t be coming out for a long time?

This is the right move don’t get me wrong, but this team has been an absolute clown show this season

Totally agree, Miami.

Unlike certain other posters we all know, I have a life and don’t continually post Armstrong bashing. But, let’s face it, Army and the Blues Brain Trust have pulled WAY too many wrong levers ever since the 2019 Cup win and 2020 Bubble.

Don’t know if they got COVID on the brain or tried to outdrink Brett Hull during the 2019 Cup parade and killed off too many brain cells.

[seattleblue]

"I doubt Dvorsky is called up if Bolduc is still here" wins the award for best ridiculous rationalization, that almost hurt to read

[Bacchk29]

"I doubt Dvorsky is called up if Bolduc is still here" wins the award for best ridiculous rationalization, that almost hurt to read

Absolutely Dvorsky should have been here out of camp regardless of Bolduc’s status.

[sdaltons]

We are worst in the league in GA. What could Bolduc do to help with that?

I think it was a spiral of several things. LM was "ready" but was always going to struggle with some growing pains. Tucker was a bad fit as a partner. The goaltending has been horrid. The combination of things killed any confidence LM may have had so by the time they tried him with Fowler, the damage was already done.

Hopefully he can go down and relax a bit and start to get settled in. I think it's undeniable that there is a lot of skill there. I'm worried about the brains but far from ready to give up on the kid or make a ruling on the trade.

[Harry S Deals]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

The only thing that matters is Buch, Thomas, Schenn, Kyrou aren't producing enough to win games. The top four D I could even include Tucker as 'ok', this corp has been good. Parayko, Flower, Broberg, Faulk = no problem

15 GP now Kyrou has 5 goals, 25 ish goal pace but quiet and ineffective. Where's Thomas and Buch? Holloway has been 'ok' better lately but hard to count on him. Schenn should not be a top 6 player, Suter is 'ok' as 2C and Dvorsky is really young and playing with a 4th liner most nights

When the top paid Blues forwards start showing up the Blues will win hockey games

Frankly I would consider sending Dalibor back down so he can play with better more skilled forwards when the Blues sell off whatever scraps other teams will take bring him back with Mailloux and maybe Stenberg and let them progress at this level

[Russdv14]

He needs to play top defensive pairing, play a lot of minutes and play on the power play down there

He needs to show success on that level so they can put them on the NHL team again

[seattleblue]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

According to the first sentence, the answer is Basu, Ramage and Monty specifically. These important people all said a thing, you already bought into it and you aren't backtracking now.

[Harry S Deals]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

According to the first sentence, the answer is Basu, Ramage and Monty specifically. These important people all said a thing, you already bought into it and you aren't backtracking now.

Why would i be backtracking???????Huh

[Harry S Deals]

We are worst in the league in GA. What could Bolduc do to help with that?

I think it was a spiral of several things. LM was "ready" but was always going to struggle with some growing pains. Tucker was a bad fit as a partner. The goaltending has been horrid. The combination of things killed any confidence LM may have had so by the time they tried him with Fowler, the damage was already done.

Hopefully he can go down and relax a bit and start to get settled in. I think it's undeniable that there is a lot of skill there. I'm worried about the brains but far from ready to give up on the kid or make a ruling on the trade.

I think if I had planned to run with Mailloux then i would have kept Ryan Suter if possible or go find a stable veteran proven LHD. I am surprised by the decision to go with Tucker, Kessel and Mailloux at the bottom of the D pairs. Odd choices

[seattleblue]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

According to the first sentence, the answer is Basu, Ramage and Monty specifically. These important people all said a thing, you already bought into it and you aren't backtracking now.

Why would i be backtracking???????Huh

Because "others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready" is categorically false?

As is obvious from looking with the eyes at the thing?

[Harry S Deals]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

According to the first sentence, the answer is Basu, Ramage and Monty specifically. These important people all said a thing, you already bought into it and you aren't backtracking now.

Why would i be backtracking???????Huh

Because "others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready" is categorically false?

As is obvious from looking with the eyes at the thing?

Those are literally quotes, go listen to 101 interview those guys. Mailloux was strong in camp and had really good preseason games, he was an AHL All Star he scored more AHL goals in one season than Bolduc did. LM needs more seasoning hes currently on a bad team LM has a very inexperienced d partner. I dont get your point. Again though, so what? Logan Mailloux/Bolduc isnt why the Blues are the 2nd to worst team in the NHL, 20th in GS ,32nd in GA, neither or the traded players are moving the needle in this situation

[sdaltons]

We are worst in the league in GA. What could Bolduc do to help with that?

I think it was a spiral of several things. LM was "ready" but was always going to struggle with some growing pains. Tucker was a bad fit as a partner. The goaltending has been horrid. The combination of things killed any confidence LM may have had so by the time they tried him with Fowler, the damage was already done.

Hopefully he can go down and relax a bit and start to get settled in. I think it's undeniable that there is a lot of skill there. I'm worried about the brains but far from ready to give up on the kid or make a ruling on the trade.

I think if I had planned to run with Mailloux then i would have kept Ryan Suter if possible or go find a stable veteran proven LHD. I am surprised by the decision to go with Tucker, Kessel and Mailloux at the bottom of the D pairs. Odd choices

Completely agree. Suter would have been an obvious fit.

[BalotelliMassive]

He's going to be 23 towards the end of this season, the "figure it out" window really isn't that far away. Just a ridiculous trade by the organization.

And any way you shake it, Army was on record right after the trade confidently proclaiming him NHL ready.

Even if he works out, their words and actions show they grossly misjudged where he’s at.

Probably said that to save face at the time of the trade but Mailloux was an AHL all star so that likely at least allowed him to say it.

Kevin Korchinski was drafted at #7 overall and was an AHL all stat but his defense sucks.

[MiamiLaw]

Kid had a strong camp in StL as well as preseason and others have agreed on his development Basu: NHL ready, Ramage: cusp of the NHL, will play, Monty: NHL ready

Who cares whether the Blues 6th or 7th 22 yr old defenseman is ready today or Christmas or Spring or next year

The only thing that matters is Buch, Thomas, Schenn, Kyrou aren't producing enough to win games. The top four D I could even include Tucker as 'ok', this corp has been good. Parayko, Flower, Broberg, Faulk = no problem

15 GP now Kyrou has 5 goals, 25 ish goal pace but quiet and ineffective. Where's Thomas and Buch? Holloway has been 'ok' better lately but hard to count on him. Schenn should not be a top 6 player, Suter is 'ok' as 2C and Dvorsky is really young and playing with a 4th liner most nights

When the top paid Blues forwards start showing up the Blues will win hockey games

Frankly I would consider sending Dalibor back down so he can play with better more skilled forwards when the Blues sell off whatever scraps other teams will take bring him back with Mailloux and maybe Stenberg and let them progress at this level

This is reasonable because the top guys have absolutely been the problem but I don’t agree with DD going back down. He’s ready and brings things to the nhl team that they are lacking. It would stunt him to send him down at this point.

[WilliamWestcliffe]

We are worst in the league in GA. What could Bolduc do to help with that?

I think it was a spiral of several things. LM was "ready" but was always going to struggle with some growing pains. Tucker was a bad fit as a partner. The goaltending has been horrid. The combination of things killed any confidence LM may have had so by the time they tried him with Fowler, the damage was already done.

Hopefully he can go down and relax a bit and start to get settled in. I think it's undeniable that there is a lot of skill there. I'm worried about the brains but far from ready to give up on the kid or make a ruling on the trade.

I think the point many are trying to make is: sure trade Bolduc, but stop wasting prime assets on dice roll defensemen. Spend the energy and assets to truly fix the problem.

We’re just wasting so much capital and circling the drain with the same problems year after year after year.

[Harry S Deals]

We are worst in the league in GA. What could Bolduc do to help with that?

I think it was a spiral of several things. LM was "ready" but was always going to struggle with some growing pains. Tucker was a bad fit as a partner. The goaltending has been horrid. The combination of things killed any confidence LM may have had so by the time they tried him with Fowler, the damage was already done.

Hopefully he can go down and relax a bit and start to get settled in. I think it's undeniable that there is a lot of skill there. I'm worried about the brains but far from ready to give up on the kid or make a ruling on the trade.

I think the point many are trying to make is: sure trade Bolduc, but stop wasting prime assets on dice roll defensemen. Spend the energy and assets to truly fix the problem.

We’re just wasting so much capital and circling the drain with the same problems year after year after year.

It's possible a dozen knowledgeable NHL people completely whiffed on assessing Mailloux. But my guess is Mailloux develops into a nice player for the Blues. The Blues were targeting a young RHD were there other choices?