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Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 10:44 am
by dugoutrex
maybe Oli can just claim 'personal issues' at the end of the season and resign

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 10:52 am
by Ronnie Dobbs
Have some of you been paying attention to what the plan is for 2026? It’s so far being discussed as a rebuild year. Unless that changes, why would you expect him to be fired based solely on their record? I don’t think that they’re that concerned about their record next year. Maybe if the team just nosedives and he loses the team, but what does that look like? 100 losses? They haven’t lost 100 games in over a century, and all reports say that the players really like Oli, so what’s the motivation to fire him early?

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 10:59 am
by Ozziesfan41
Oli won’t be fired it’s business as usual for the cardinals bring back the same manager and coaching staff bring back the same runway players who failed in Gorman and walker so they can fail again they may trade arenado so they can make sure Gorman will be able to suck for another season but no doesn’t look like much will change

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 11:07 am
by scoutyjones2
dugoutrex wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:44 am maybe Oli can just claim 'personal issues' at the end of the season and resign
End of the season is the end of his contract :roll:

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 11:08 am
by scoutyjones2
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:59 am Oli won’t be fired it’s business as usual for the cardinals bring back the same manager and coaching staff bring back the same runway players who failed in Gorman and walker so they can fail again they may trade arenado so they can make sure Gorman will be able to suck for another season but no doesn’t look like much will change
What coaching staff has stayed consistent during Olis tenure?

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 11:09 am
by OldRed
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:52 am Have some of you been paying attention to what the plan is for 2026? It’s so far being discussed as a rebuild year. Unless that changes, why would you expect him to be fired based solely on their record? I don’t think that they’re that concerned about their record next year. Maybe if the team just nosedives and he loses the team, but what does that look like? 100 losses? They haven’t lost 100 games in over a century, and all reports say that the players really like Oli, so what’s the motivation to fire him early?
If 2026 is the rebuild year, what was last year?

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 11:33 am
by Ozziesfan41
scoutyjones2 wrote: 31 Oct 2025 11:08 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:59 am Oli won’t be fired it’s business as usual for the cardinals bring back the same manager and coaching staff bring back the same runway players who failed in Gorman and walker so they can fail again they may trade arenado so they can make sure Gorman will be able to suck for another season but no doesn’t look like much will change
What coaching staff has stayed consistent during Olis tenure?
Bloom took over this offseason he’s bringing back oli and the same coaching staff other than adding a couple of assistant coaching staff so yea business as usual bringing back the same “runway” players as last season so they can now suck in the “Rebuild” season

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 12:14 pm
by JohnnyMO
OldRed wrote: 31 Oct 2025 11:09 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:52 am Have some of you been paying attention to what the plan is for 2026? It’s so far being discussed as a rebuild year. Unless that changes, why would you expect him to be fired based solely on their record? I don’t think that they’re that concerned about their record next year. Maybe if the team just nosedives and he loses the team, but what does that look like? 100 losses? They haven’t lost 100 games in over a century, and all reports say that the players really like Oli, so what’s the motivation to fire him early?
If 2026 is the rebuild year, what was last year?
Also a rebuild year. Rebuilds aren’t a one season thing

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 12:16 pm
by ilcubuffs
"we are not where we want to be. We are not where we need to be. We are not where our fans expect us to be and we are not where we expect ourselves to be. Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and a World Series championship" .

So right out of the gate your first move is to keep Marmot?

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 12:18 pm
by An Old Friend
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 31 Oct 2025 09:26 am
OldRed wrote: 31 Oct 2025 09:25 am How long will the last if the team can't win?
I can’t see it being all that long if they go sideways fast. If they can remain 500 ish I think he’s golden.

Off the rails early gone

Imho
He’s not going to be expected to win.

I think he manages the duration

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 12:21 pm
by Ozziesfan41
OldRed wrote: 31 Oct 2025 11:09 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 31 Oct 2025 10:52 am Have some of you been paying attention to what the plan is for 2026? It’s so far being discussed as a rebuild year. Unless that changes, why would you expect him to be fired based solely on their record? I don’t think that they’re that concerned about their record next year. Maybe if the team just nosedives and he loses the team, but what does that look like? 100 losses? They haven’t lost 100 games in over a century, and all reports say that the players really like Oli, so what’s the motivation to fire him early?
If 2026 is the rebuild year, what was last year?
Last year was a runway year where they see which players suck and which players are good this season it’s a rebuild year where they rebuild around the players who sucked last
Season and will suck again this season

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 13:32 pm
by ScotchMIrish
I think Bloom said something to the effect that it would be a difficult year. The fact that he just reassigned some of the people Mozeliak had put in place tells me he isn't entirely sure Marmol is the problem.

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 16:29 pm
by Goldfan
Come on…….Oli could attempt to pull down the Stan Statue with his Prius…..and still would be back in ‘27

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 16:56 pm
by Dicktar2023
Is this a joke?

It could not be clearer that this club has zero expectations of Marmol. All the excuses that have been deployed by the FO and the State Media from 2023-2025 will be even more applicable in 2026--The Official Budweiser No Kidding, For Realsies, We Mean It This Time* Rebuild Year.

*or do we? *winkie face*

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 17:08 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
You guys need to understand how a rebuild works.

Re: Marmol's 2026 leash

Posted: 31 Oct 2025 18:14 pm
by Banner29
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 31 Oct 2025 17:08 pm You guys need to understand how a rebuild works.
By keeping the same damaged/ineffective parts?
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