The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues

[a smell of green grass]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

So you want guys drafted 1-2 years ago to already be on the big club???

YES. And why do I expect this?
1. Army called the re-whatever over. Isn't new young players on the ice the goal of a re-whatever?
2. Claiming a spot on the current Blues roster is not a massive feat/accomplishment.
3. Why would I want another Hofer situation? We don't find out how good/bad a player is for many years.
4. Look around the league. Many other teams have players starting that were drafted on or after 2023.
5. The alternative is to acquire old players as stop-gaps, or Pius Suter types. They may be better than our prospects this year, but they are not long-term solutions.

[somni]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

[a smell of green grass]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

[son_of_foolsgold]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

You STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.

[HighStick]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

If Army is in the building, the wrong player will be selected. I want a TOP5 pick and somebody else picking.

Army will be the first to tell you building a strong team through the middle, centers, defensemen, and goalies. In 17 years, Army has given us Parayko and Binnington via the draft. The best GMs build via the draft. Armstrong builds very little via the draft, and the good finds that he does make, always end up on other rosters, an inscribed on Stanley Cups.

It doesn't matter who picks if the pick is the bpa. That what most teams do in that situation.

[seattleblue]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Do you not get that one way to ruin possible talent is to shove them into situations they're not ready for? You seem to not understand how sports works. But it's the only path you'll accept.

LewisL is 100% right, the Blues are literally holding a top 5 pick, they are in 4th, and you're even worse than before once you get what you want. You're a misery machine and it's core to who you are. That's called failing.

[Bacchk29]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

The Orioles won 195 games in 23-24. Yes they got bounced in the first round and injuries devastated their pitching staff in 25 but still a loaded team with the right manager next year. Not exactly a great example

[son_of_foolsgold]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Do you not get that one way to ruin possible talent is to shove them into situations they're not ready for? You seem to not understand how sports works. But it's the only path you'll accept.

LewisL is 100% right, the Blues are literally holding a top 5 pick, they are in 4th, and you're even worse than before once you get what you want. You're a misery machine and it's core to who you are. That's called failing.

You are an idiot...the draft position we are in NOW doesn't matter!!! Because knowing Army, he'll make some stupid boneass trade for
a vet d-man or goalie that wins the Blues a half-dozen or so games that lowers their draft position to 15th or lower....

[seattleblue]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Do you not get that one way to ruin possible talent is to shove them into situations they're not ready for? You seem to not understand how sports works. But it's the only path you'll accept.

LewisL is 100% right, the Blues are literally holding a top 5 pick, they are in 4th, and you're even worse than before once you get what you want. You're a misery machine and it's core to who you are. That's called failing.

You are an idiot...the draft position we are in NOW doesn't matter!!! Because knowing Army, he'll make some stupid boneass trade for
a vet d-man or goalie that wins the Blues a half-dozen or so games that lowers their draft position to 15th or lower....

You're a thoroughgoing loser and an imbecile

[Harry S Deals]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Do you not get that one way to ruin possible talent is to shove them into situations they're not ready for? You seem to not understand how sports works. But it's the only path you'll accept.

LewisL is 100% right, the Blues are literally holding a top 5 pick, they are in 4th, and you're even worse than before once you get what you want. You're a misery machine and it's core to who you are. That's called failing.

You are an idiot...the draft position we are in NOW doesn't matter!!! Because knowing Army, he'll make some stupid boneass trade for
a vet d-man or goalie that wins the Blues a half-dozen or so games that lowers their draft position to 15th or lower....

You're a thoroughgoing loser and an imbecile

Why engage these posters are idiots who apparently dont know much about hockey. Its a much nicer forum for your use with them all on Foe setting, trust me. there are a lot of good knowledgeable posters here no reason to stoop to this level

[seattleblue]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Do you not get that one way to ruin possible talent is to shove them into situations they're not ready for? You seem to not understand how sports works. But it's the only path you'll accept.

LewisL is 100% right, the Blues are literally holding a top 5 pick, they are in 4th, and you're even worse than before once you get what you want. You're a misery machine and it's core to who you are. That's called failing.

You are an idiot...the draft position we are in NOW doesn't matter!!! Because knowing Army, he'll make some stupid boneass trade for
a vet d-man or goalie that wins the Blues a half-dozen or so games that lowers their draft position to 15th or lower....

You're a thoroughgoing loser and an imbecile

Why engage these posters are idiots who apparently dont know much about hockey. Its a much nicer forum for your use with them all on Foe setting, trust me. there are a lot of good knowledgeable posters here no reason to stoop to this level

I got called an idiot, I replied, don't police my reply please. This isn't a stoop, it's just a reply

[LewisL]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

You STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.

Oh I understand all right. I just don't believe in tanking, which basically requires losing. I don't tolerate losers like you. Our 2019 Cup didn't require a tanking.

[son_of_foolsgold]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

You STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.

Oh I understand all right. I just don't believe in tanking, which basically requires losing. I don't tolerate losers like you. Our 2019 Cup didn't require a tanking.

We certainly seem to be doing plenty of losing doing it Army's way...and your way.

[LewisL]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

The Orioles won 195 games in 23-24. Yes they got bounced in the first round and injuries devastated their pitching staff in 25 but still a loaded team with the right manager next year. Not exactly a great example

They tanked big time for years with no attempt to compete, and they still haven't won anything of note. Their fans have been long suffering through this. The future is supposedly bright? Please. They even had a threat of relocation during the process.

[Bubble4427]

Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.

Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!

Meanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.

The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.

The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.

Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.

Five years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?
Jesus

I wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.

We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.

Well, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.

I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.

I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.

Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.

Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.

Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.

I'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.

I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.

Quit moving the goalposts...
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.

[LewisL]

LOL, you guys who embrace tanking are pathetic. You basically now have what you want....... the team has been losing, yet you're still whining & complaining.

You misunderstand completely....

None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.

Yet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.

You STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.

Oh I understand all right. I just don't believe in tanking, which basically requires losing. I don't tolerate losers like you. Our 2019 Cup didn't require a tanking.

We certainly seem to be doing plenty of losing doing it Army's way...and your way.

Ok loser. Pay your good money for tickets to root on losing for high draft picks.