Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:48 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Because MLB is too unbalanced now as far as player payrolls.
Balancing that does not ensure competitive balance
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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cardinalsfever44 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:52 am
Goldfan wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:28 am First PS Dodger game I watched……all that money doesn’t seem to matter if the other team hits :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
The "other" team has the 5th highest payroll in MLB at a cool $240 mil. We can ditch the Blue Jays rag tag bunch narrative.
lol +1 it’s not David and Goliath payrolls it’s Goliath and Goliath
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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45s wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:48 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:48 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Because MLB is too unbalanced now as far as player payrolls.
Balancing that does not ensure competitive balance
It does with revenue sharing.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:53 am
45s wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:48 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:48 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Because MLB is too unbalanced now as far as player payrolls.
Balancing that does not ensure competitive balance
It does with revenue sharing.
No it doesn’t…..it’s how the money is managed and spent…

and competence can’t be balanced………

give Milwaukee X…..and give STL X…..Milwaukee will succeed….STL will fail…
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:53 am
45s wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:48 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:48 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Because MLB is too unbalanced now as far as player payrolls.
Balancing that does not ensure competitive balance
It does with revenue sharing.
There is revenue sharing but with loopholes. Cards have benefited from some of the loopholes. Need to tighten the loopholes and put in salary cap and salary floor. If franchise markets can’t support floor move franchise
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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ramfandan wrote: 25 Oct 2025 08:09 am
CCard wrote: 25 Oct 2025 08:00 am
Goldfan wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:28 am First PS Dodger game I watched……all that money doesn’t seem to matter if the other team hits :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
They sure had a nightmare inning. In a short series anyone can win. That's why it's imperative to get to the dance. Who would have thought the first pinch hit grand slam in World Series history. LOL You knew Toronto was going to take at least one game. Still a lot left to go though.
In a ‘short series anyone can win’? Best 4 of 7 game series doesn’t seem that short to me .
7 games is less than one NFL game.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
The Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 21:07 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
The Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.
So with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contrary :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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ramfandan wrote: 25 Oct 2025 08:09 am
CCard wrote: 25 Oct 2025 08:00 am
Goldfan wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:28 am First PS Dodger game I watched……all that money doesn’t seem to matter if the other team hits :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
They sure had a nightmare inning. In a short series anyone can win. That's why it's imperative to get to the dance. Who would have thought the first pinch hit grand slam in World Series history. LOL You knew Toronto was going to take at least one game. Still a lot left to go though.
In a ‘short series anyone can win’? Best 4 of 7 game series doesn’t seem that short to me .
It is when you play 162 games just to get there. Any team can win 4 out of 7 games. You line up your best couple of starters to start twice. You get a hot player on a roll. It seems pretty short to me. Plus you have to navigate that wild card mess sometimes.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Quick thoughts:
1) greater revenue sharing of media dollars -need to keep the leagues and divisions competitive.
- if the Dodgers don’t have competition the product has no value- who wants to watch the Dodgers annually dominate beyond So Calf?
- require shared revenue to be reinvested in FAs or in minor league system development. Any balances go back to the teams sharing the revenue.

2) keep the luxury tax and the balance sheet separate.
- if you sign a player for $70M/10 years the salary goes against the tax at $70m per year for 10 years. (Vs $46M).
- if a team wants to defer the payments - so be it that’s their business but they can’t use the deferral to manipulate the the luxury tax.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Goldfan wrote: 26 Oct 2025 07:44 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 21:07 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
The Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.
So with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contrary :lol: :lol: :lol:
They actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS

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Cranny wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 26 Oct 2025 07:44 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 21:07 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
The Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.
So with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contrary :lol: :lol: :lol:
They actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Why won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?
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Banner29 wrote: 26 Oct 2025 21:22 pm
Cranny wrote: 26 Oct 2025 17:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 26 Oct 2025 07:44 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 21:07 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 11:15 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:46 am
Banner29 wrote: 25 Oct 2025 09:14 am
Jatalk wrote: 25 Oct 2025 07:46 am Why are we being critical of ownership that spends $$$$?
Envy
No envy at all. Would rather root for the underdog.

An underdog champion gets the same exact trophy as a money spending champion.
Guess it's all in how one looks at it, eh banner? And how we look at it is okay either way. Right?

And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.

It’s weird. But You do you
The Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.
So with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contrary :lol: :lol: :lol:
They actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Why won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/

Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention

Cranny=Underdogs :lol: :lol: :lol:
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