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Re: Buch shoots wide on a breakaway, then takes the penalty

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MandatoryDenial wrote: 22 Oct 2025 07:55 am
HighStick wrote: 21 Oct 2025 21:51 pm Nope.... still Krug. :(
Yep Krug is definitely the worst contract. I would argue that Oshie is the worst move, that trade was brutal.
Then he shouldn’t have thrown Hitch under the bus to the media.
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Re: Buch shoots wide on a breakaway, then takes the penalty

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 21 Oct 2025 21:45 pm That extension is the worst move of Army’s career.
Goalie made a save on that correct?
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Re: Buch shoots wide on a breakaway, then takes the penalty

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SteveR85 wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:36 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:22 am That was one of the weakest OT penalty calls I have ever seen.

I am someone who says if it's a penalty in the first period it's a penalty in OT, but that wasn't a penalty in the first period so it shouldn't be a penalty in OT.
I wasn't sure until they showed the replay, starting with the attempt to start OT. Doughty makes as much contact with Buchnevich on the hand/stick that Buchnevich made with Kuzmenko. One is called a penalty. No call on the other.
That was my first thought, what a weak call in OT.

Buch is very inconsistent. Makes some brilliant moves, makes some mind-bogglong mistakes.
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SteveR85 wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:36 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:22 am That was one of the weakest OT penalty calls I have ever seen.

I am someone who says if it's a penalty in the first period it's a penalty in OT, but that wasn't a penalty in the first period so it shouldn't be a penalty in OT.
I wasn't sure until they showed the replay, starting with the attempt to start OT. Doughty makes as much contact with Buchnevich on the hand/stick that Buchnevich made with Kuzmenko. One is called a penalty. No call on the other.
Yep. I had no problem with it not being called on Doughty but don't call the exact same thing on Buch at the other end.
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I thought Kuemper got a skate on it. Doesn't matter. Buchnevich was out there because he anticipated enough to get a breakaway.

The penalty sucked. Tough call for OT.

Either way, you hope this team could overall play better, including Buchnevich. There are some new faces and lines are jumbled. Let's just hope things can start clicking with these boys and we get to some good hockey.
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I'll have to look at the plays again but . . . As soon as Buch shoots on that break he needs to head for the bench. On the penalty, looked bad because he was behind (playing pylon at that point) and reached in.
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netboy65 wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:44 am Then he shouldn’t have thrown Hitch under the bus to the media.
I honestly don't understand this comment. A player makes a comment on a coach and then you trade him for way less then market value.... O'k, yeah I guess if you think it makes you feel better?
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ratonmono2 wrote: 21 Oct 2025 22:10 pm Haven't posted here in half a decade haha. Buch may be the most frustrating player I can remember playing for the Blues. Offense goes to die on his stick. One of my least favorite Blues.
Same here. That's why I wrote my post in the other thread, almost a year after my last post.
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Oshie was traded because he was horrid in the playoffs as a Blue, culminating in that last series against Minnesota where he was one of the worst players on the ice.

He became something different in Washington
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MiamiLaw wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:46 am Oshie was traded because he was horrid in the playoffs as a Blue, culminating in that last series against Minnesota where he was one of the worst players on the ice.

He became something different in Washington
Might have been the nail, but he was openly critical of Hitchcock. Army didn’t like/respect Oshie much either as a result
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theograce wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:48 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:46 am Oshie was traded because he was horrid in the playoffs as a Blue, culminating in that last series against Minnesota where he was one of the worst players on the ice.

He became something different in Washington
Might have been the nail, but he was openly critical of Hitchcock. Army didn’t like/respect Oshie much either as a result
I would say it was the Hitch comments that were the nail but they played a part too I am sure. I did not like trading him for Brouwer in particular, but trading him was the right call in my opinion.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:50 am
theograce wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:48 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 22 Oct 2025 11:46 am Oshie was traded because he was horrid in the playoffs as a Blue, culminating in that last series against Minnesota where he was one of the worst players on the ice.

He became something different in Washington
Might have been the nail, but he was openly critical of Hitchcock. Army didn’t like/respect Oshie much either as a result
I would say it was the Hitch comments that were the nail but they played a part too I am sure. I did not like trading him for Brouwer in particular, but trading him was the right call in my opinion.
Oshie was very bad in the playoffs. It's hard to tell if it was all on him as there were others from their youth movement that consistently laid duds. But Oshie was definitely the biggest choker. I at least remember Perron having memorable games. Those kings losses were tough to swallow back then. The team need a culture shift and they got it. Was one of the best moves Army ever made. If they don't switch players at that point, we dont get the 2016 over the hump playoff run and also beat a Stanley Cup worthy team in Chicago. If that doesn't happen, the teams expectations don't rise and we don't get to the 2019 Cup.

Pivotal move by Army. I loved TJ Oshie. Was tons of fun to watch. And in the college days, he was great for a good ole drinking game with every time he fell over. He was on our list of 5 things. Funny anecdote, he was at the Library hitting on my buddy's friend at the time (eventual GF), I can't remember which Vet it was but he basically told my buddy, hey he's just an idiot, just run up stuff on his tab. And they got their night paid on Oshie.
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He was as immature as the day is long.

He finally grew up.
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somni wrote: 22 Oct 2025 10:26 am I thought Kuemper got a skate on it. Doesn't matter. Buchnevich was out there because he anticipated enough to get a breakaway.

The penalty sucked. Tough call for OT.

Either way, you hope this team could overall play better, including Buchnevich. There are some new faces and lines are jumbled. Let's just hope things can start clicking with these boys and we get to some good hockey.
I thought he shot wide also, but one of the replays showed that he didn't get enough lift on it. It hit Kempers skate and went behind the net.
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Re: Buch shoots wide on a breakaway, then takes the penalty

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SteveR85 wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:36 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:22 am That was one of the weakest OT penalty calls I have ever seen.

I am someone who says if it's a penalty in the first period it's a penalty in OT, but that wasn't a penalty in the first period so it shouldn't be a penalty in OT.
I wasn't sure until they showed the replay, starting with the attempt to start OT. Doughty makes as much contact with Buchnevich on the hand/stick that Buchnevich made with Kuzmenko. One is called a penalty. No call on the other.
LA had so much over the top stick work all game. They were hooking/slashing like it was a playoff game where the refs were letting the teams play.

When facing a desperate defensive minded team, that’s not how the Blues would want the game called but don’t let everything go then call that [nonsense] in OT. LA also had a PP with 5 minutes left in the 3rd with no possession time all period.
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Re: Buch shoots wide on a breakaway, then takes the penalty

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TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Oct 2025 08:22 am That was one of the weakest OT penalty calls I have ever seen.

I am someone who says if it's a penalty in the first period it's a penalty in OT, but that wasn't a penalty in the first period so it shouldn't be a penalty in OT.

Exactly, very weak call.
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